[Cyberyeti]

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IMPS love all

Edit: I just looked at the board online, vulnerability actually vul against not if that changes anything

[pescetom]

What is this X here in NS agreements?

[Cyberyeti]

pescetom, on 2025-March-02, 15:01, said:

What is this X here in NS agreements?

Takeout, no other agreements

[pescetom]

Cyberyeti, on 2025-March-02, 15:33, said:

Takeout, no other agreements

I assume it at least excludes fit or minors 5-5...
So probably 2=2=4=5 or similar, I think I Double although it could well be wrong.

[jillybean]

I wish pass was forcing

Edit with the new information regarding vulnerability, 5H

[Cyberyeti]

pescetom, on 2025-March-02, 16:12, said:

I assume it at least excludes fit or minors 5-5...
So probably 2=2=4=5 or similar, I think I Double although it could well be wrong.

Penalties ? also note the edit to the OP

[shyams]

This is not part of any bidding system or agreement that I personally have ever played but...

I think I will improvise with a 4NT bid as South.

* When, as expected, North bids 5♣ or 5♦, I will 'correct to' 5♥.
* Hopefully this shows a slam interest with a self-sustaining Heart suit.

North, a passed hand, will rarely have perfect cards & may well pass; occasionally with hands suitable for a slam.
However, North looks to have 0-1 HCPs in ♠ + maybe 9-10(11) HCP in other suits. With ♠xxx ♥A (singleton) and a minor with KQxxx or KQJxx, North should find 6♥, with a realistic hope that the minor suit is used for discards after declarer draws trumps.

[Cyberyeti]

shyams, on 2025-March-03, 07:35, said:

This is not part of any bidding system or agreement that I personally have ever played but...

I think I will improvise with a 4NT bid as South.

* When, as expected, North bids 5♣ or 5♦, I will 'correct to' 5♥.
* Hopefully this shows a slam interest with a self-sustaining Heart suit.

North, a passed hand, will rarely have perfect cards & may well pass; occasionally with hands suitable for a slam.
However, North looks to have 0-1 HCPs in ♠ + maybe 9-10(11) HCP in other suits. With ♠xxx ♥A (singleton) and a minor with KQxxx or KQJxx, North should find 6♥, with a realistic hope that the minor suit is used for discards after declarer draws trumps.

We open fairly light, KQJxx and an ace gets opened. I thought about 4N but wasn't sure what to do next.

Correcting 5♦ to 5♥ can be a disaster, where do you want to play opposite xxx, x, KQJxx, Jxxx ?

Not correcting can be wrong opposite xx, Jx, Qxxxx, KJxx

[DavidKok]

The direct 5♥ is a slam try for me, while 4NT-then-5♥ is merely competitive.
If we bid 4NT and partner responds 5♣ all is well: we can pass with hearts and clubs, correct to 5♦ with hearts and diamonds, and correct to 5♥ with single-suited hearts.
If partner chooses diamonds instead we have a problem. Now both hearts+clubs and single-suited hearts correct to 5♥. It is better to lose this definition on the weak hand, that way partner will know to pass. If the slow route can be strong partner may have a very difficult guess when we correct.

[P_Marlowe]

Cyberyeti, on 2025-March-02, 14:07, said:

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IMPS love all

Edit: I just looked at the board online, vulnerability actually vul against not if that changes anything

5H.

If you have the agreement, you could go via 4NT (DavidKok seems to play it the otherway round), but at the
table I would just bid 5H.
As it is I am not too worried missing slam, given that p is a passed hand, yes slam can make, but I usually
dont go hunting for the gold, that can be found at the end of the rainbow.
If you have the 4NT tool av., does not matter which way you play it, it generates FP, but again p is a passed
hand, i.e. I dont really need him to get involved if they bid 5S, I will just hit it.

[Cyberyeti]

P_Marlowe, on 2025-March-03, 08:32, said:

5H.

If you have the agreement, you could go via 4NT (DavidKok seems to play it the otherway round), but at the
table I would just bid 5H.
As it is I am not too worried missing slam, given that p is a passed hand, yes slam can make, but I usually
dot go hunting for the gold, that can be found at the end of the rainbow.

It's just about possible you're making a grand here xxx, Ax, (KQJx, xxxx), not sure if partner's supposed to raise with this if you have no arrangements about 4N.

As it happens partner has a particularly unfortunate hand with an equally unfortunate heart break, and the best you can do is take 300 out of 4♠X as you can't make 5♥.

Secondary question:

You are playing 6m and when you lead your singleton heart up towards KQ98xxx, which card to you put in if LHO plays a) small or b) 10 or J. I'm looking at this in abstract outside of the entry situation first.