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I've never done this before! well, it's *supposed* to be forcing

#1 User is offline   mycroft 

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Posted 2024-December-06, 01:49


Pickup at the club, with one of the best players there.

Our card says "sound preempts 1/2", and maybe I should have done that. But I couldn't decide whether to open 1 or 3, and ended up deciding "I'll get a chance to show this hand next round for sure" and passed.

LHO opened 1(!) in third, and, well...

Partner's only comment was "I know he saw my bid." RHO led his "obvious" trump, and by conceding the T and the K, eventually my partner was able to get to the board and pull the rest, to make 2.

But I've never done that before; probably never will again.
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Posted 2024-December-06, 03:32

We play a multi-option weak 2 bid, 5-5 minors, 5-5 reds or a bad heart preempt.

So partner opened this and I held AJ107x, 109xxx, K, xx, looked very much like partner had the minors, confirmed after I passed when the next hand bid 3, partner piped up with 3 and RHO bid 3N. I led a small spade, partner's 8 forced the Q, eventually down 2 for all the MPs.
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Posted 2024-December-06, 07:51

What is a sound preempt 3 if not something like that?


This reminds me of one of our players who consistently opened hands like this as a weak two in Multi. When I grilled him about what 3M would be he finally admitted "I never open 3".
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Posted 2024-December-06, 15:22

3 this is a sound preempt.
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Posted 2024-December-06, 17:36

4 seems normal, but if you have partnership agreements about how to bid this hand you may as well follow them. It would backfire spectacularly on this deal.
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Posted 2024-December-06, 21:23

I looked at the hand and thought it had too many flaws. Not *this one*, perhaps, but 3-(4)-and when does partner double?

Probably I was wrong to pass. But it wouldn't have been anywhere near as interesting a story (I've been 4 digits after a preempt a lot, it's no longer interesting. Yes, this time it's only down 1 or 2, but still).
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