Coming back to bridge after many years I have been watching a lot of BBO bridge before I embarrass myself at the table.
I have noticed this basic auction create issues among all levels of players.
1C-(1S)-X
What are the expected minimum types of hands for this negative double?
						
						
						
					
					
				
		
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				Posted 2024-November-18, 14:41
	"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
If you are my partner, please never tell me "I play the rule of (insert #)"
					
				"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
If you are my partner, please never tell me "I play the rule of (insert #)"
				
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				Posted 2024-November-18, 15:01
 jillybean, on 2024-November-18, 14:41, said:
jillybean, on 2024-November-18, 14:41, said:
6-9 

I don't think it's limited, actually. 2♥ would show 10+ points and five hearts. With only four hearts, I would start with a negative double. But I think people have differing agreements about this double. As usual, the answer is "whatever you and your partner agree."
				
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				Posted 2024-November-18, 15:38
						The minimum hands in double contain 4(+) hearts. It is possible partner is strong with exactly 4♥, but not possible that partner is strong with 5(+)♥ as partner would bid 2♥ with that hand type. In theory there is no upper limit to the number of hearts, but in practice doubling with 6(+) tends to fare poorly.
Lastly double may also be a 'smallest lie' with 3 hearts, but this is uncommon, typically stronger, and more of an intermediate+ agreement.
						
					
					
				Lastly double may also be a 'smallest lie' with 3 hearts, but this is uncommon, typically stronger, and more of an intermediate+ agreement.
				
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				Posted 2024-November-19, 15:32
						Yes, standard is "4 or more hearts, enough to bid at the two level; but not '5 hearts and 10 HCP'."  Agreements can vary from standard in many ways (not least how strong is "enough to bid at the 2 level").
						
						
						
					
					
						
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				Posted 2024-November-20, 07:03
						6-9 with (5)6+ hearts. 
More importantly, you should discuss which hand opener is representing. Some people insist that double implies diamond tolerance or extra hearts, so that 2♦ is weak. More common is to let go of that requirement for the double, with the consequence that the 2♦ rebid requires significant extra strength.
						
					
					
				More importantly, you should discuss which hand opener is representing. Some people insist that double implies diamond tolerance or extra hearts, so that 2♦ is weak. More common is to let go of that requirement for the double, with the consequence that the 2♦ rebid requires significant extra strength.
	
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