[jillybean]

DavidKok, on 2024-September-27, 09:44, said:

To be clear, you are both saying you would play splinters here. As would I, though this new example hand is not a perfect example. A splinter might still be the best description, but starting with something like Drury would also be fine. Very curious that the opponents are not in the auction while we have passed and then discovered an 11-card fit.
Lastly I personally think opening light in third seat is not all it's cracked up to be, so there is less risk 'suddenly' forcing to the 4-level compared to styles where the opening is frequently light or a 4-card suit. If the latter is your style that might be a good reason to use alternative methods as a passed hand. Keep in mind you can always Drury-then-splinter, if you wish.

I very rarely use splinters, perhaps I should. I wouldn't use one here, if I had woken up after putting the pass card on the table first round, I would try drury and then
a second try with 4♦.
Is there a LA if partner does not alert my 2C Drury?

[pescetom]

jillybean, on 2024-September-27, 11:56, said:

I very rarely use splinters, perhaps I should. I wouldn't use one here, if I had woken up after putting the pass card on the table first round, I would try drury and then
a second try with 4♦.

Splinters are a great tool, if inserted logically in the system, and I see no reason to disable them for a passed hand.
Like most low frequency conventions that have passed Darwinian testing, it is useful not just when it is actually bid but also by inference when it is not bid.
I can't comment the Drury alternative as I never played that (like Davidkok, I have little faith in messing around in third seat and like you, I have a distaste for things that flaunt the Laws).

[jillybean]

Yes, I should look again at splinters, fit jumps and so on. When I get time. My first priority is mini nt and T-Walsh.

My distaste for splinters are from the days before 1x:2C* gf when I misused splinters as a GF raise.

[pescetom]

jillybean, on 2024-September-27, 12:43, said:

Yes, I should look again at splinters, fit jumps and so on. When I get time. My first priority is mini nt and T-Walsh.

My distaste for splinters are from the days before 1x:2C* gf when I misused splinters as a GF raise.

We all have our own road map, mine is adding Gazzilli to 2/1 and playing strong club from the other side.
But FWIW I think splinters are fundamental unlike fit jumps, mini NT and T-Walsh.