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#1 User is offline   doria_55 

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Posted 2020-April-13, 06:37

Folks, I would like your opinion on this bidding which took place in my tournament yesterday. Does it seem technically correct to bid 7 nt without two KING? And, once achieved a wrong bidding, declarer seems so lucky to guess position of missing K...


NORD 875 KJ9 K52 7643
SUD J642 10 652 6 J 952
WEST kq109 A843 J7 Q 108
EAST A3 Q7 AQ109843 AK

DECLARER : EAST
1 - P - 1- P - 2NT - P - 3 - 4NT (REQ ACES) - P - 5 (1 ACE) - P - 7nt

tell me , folks :)
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Posted 2020-April-13, 06:48

The auction seems very strange, assuming there is a pass missing (you normally would not go into blackwood when you have limited your hand and partner hasn't). Hands like this is why normal blackwood is all but extinct among competitive players as the people playing RKC in the same auction up to 4NT would find out partner has KQ and will have the chance to show the K if they had it.

There is nothing wrong with bidding 7NT missing 2 kings, as long as you have the tricks to justify it.

By the way, the king of diamonds is missing in the deck, and there are two 4s
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Posted 2020-April-13, 07:15

View Postmanudude03, on 2020-April-13, 06:48, said:

The auction seems very strange, assuming there is a pass missing (you normally would not go into blackwood when you have limited your hand and partner hasn't). Hands like this is why normal blackwood is all but extinct among competitive players as the people playing RKC in the same auction up to 4NT would find out partner has KQ and will have the chance to show the K if they had it.

There is nothing wrong with bidding 7NT missing 2 kings, as long as you have the tricks to justify it.

By the way, the king of diamonds is missing in the deck, and there are two 4s


By Doria_55 : LOL .. Wrong Typing...K in North... ty
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Posted 2020-April-13, 07:34


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Posted 2020-April-13, 08:19

IMO. Suspicious but inconclusive without more evidence.
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Posted 2020-April-13, 08:29

View Postnige1, on 2020-April-13, 08:19, said:

IMO. Suspicious but inconclusive without more evidence.


Presumably he could have asked for kings in some way
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Posted 2020-April-13, 08:49

View Postnullve, on 2020-April-13, 07:34, said:




Doria_55 How did you find it and publish the diagram of the hand? I have not able to do that :(
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Posted 2020-April-13, 09:09

View Postdoria_55, on 2020-April-13, 08:49, said:

Doria_55 How did you find it and publish the diagram of the hand? I have not able to do that :(

When posting, click on the hand editor symbol (a black spade inside a rectangle with brown edges).
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Posted 2020-April-14, 00:49

View Postnullve, on 2020-April-13, 09:09, said:

When posting, click on the hand editor symbol (a black spade inside a rectangle with brown edges).

Doria, it has to be done on a computer and not on the phone. The editor is not available on the phone.
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Posted 2020-April-14, 02:10

You reached 7nt and made it. If it is right to bid it depends on the situation like are you way behind in a team match then yes take a gamble. Bidding 7 depending on a king being onside is not winning in the long run. The way you reached 7nt is up for a debate but I would get to 6.
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Posted 2020-April-14, 02:12

On the face of it a bad bid comes good, that happens. We do not know the context. May be a "Hail Mary" dictated by the need for a top.
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Posted 2020-April-14, 03:05

Bidding 7 risks a good score where 6NT might be made on a finesse or squeeze. Did the 3 bid confuse or was it at IMPS vs a superior team. In that case 7seems better.
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Posted 2020-April-14, 06:11

Here is a different wacky bidding sequence. As East, open 2C, then rebid 2NT. After that the partnership will get to 6NT.
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Posted 2020-April-14, 06:35

View Postnudnikbp, on 2020-April-14, 06:11, said:

Here is a different wacky bidding sequence. As East, open 2C, then rebid 2NT. After that the partnership will get to 6NT.


Which is probably the wrong small slam particularly at teams.
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