[MrAce]

For those who are debating over the chosen action (2♥) of North player....

https://bridgewinner...=658287#c658287

[Tramticket]

MrAce, on 2018-May-27, 22:25, said:

For those who are debating over the chosen action (2♥) of North player....

https://bridgewinner...=658287#c658287

thanks Timo, interesting.

sfi, on 2018-May-27, 19:09, said:

(Presuming you mean 2H rather than 2S ...)

Yes … Oops

I can see arguments in favour of double or 2♥, but pass seems way too conservative. It may seem risky to bid 2♥ on this five-card suit, but risks work both ways and passing seems like a far greater risk to me. The question is how best to act. Yes, I would also like to have a six-card suit for a two-over-one overcall but I'm not always dealt one and it will be very difficult finding game in hearts on a 5-3 fit if we don't bid it now.

[msjennifer]

Tramticket, on 2018-May-27, 23:30, said:

thanks Timo, interesting.



Yes … Oops

I can see arguments in favour of double or 2♥, but pass seems way too conservative. It may seem risky to bid 2♥ on this five-card suit, but risks work both ways and passing seems like a far greater risk to me. The question is how best to act. Yes, I would also like to have a six-card suit for a two-over-one overcall but I'm not always dealt one and it will be very difficult finding game in hearts on a 5-3 fit if we don't bid it now.

The North hand was revealed later.My argument about what North should /could have bid arises now.A simple overcall suggests a limited hand and a single suiter,usually 6 carded semi strong suit and at the two level a 7 loser hand.A 2H bid serves the purpose of semi preempt as also a clue for any sacrifice if necessary later.It also makes clear to partner that he should not expect a support in his suit.The North hand does not fall in this category.There is quite good support for diamonds and not a bad support for clubs .There is nothing to be very proud of the heart suit.A last intention of a simple overcall is lead direction.Here North can withstand any lead of interest which S may make.All these and the possession of 16 HCP and only 6 losers makes this hand a clear cut bid of Double and not 2H .Of course this is strictly my personal opinion .I think a double of a major suit bid as a TOD also promises an honour to four in the other major OR a single suiter strong hand.This hand has at least one of the qualifications if not more for a TOD.

[RD350LC]

Winstonm, on 2018-May-27, 18:46, said:

Your partner has a takeout double, not an overcall.

I agree with this. With (relative) shortness in spades, support for all other suits, and at least an opening bid, this is a good takeout double.
There are times when an overcall would be better, but not this time.

[Tramticket]

MrAce, on 2018-May-27, 22:25, said:

For those who are debating over the chosen action (2♥) of North player....

https://bridgewinner...=658287#c658287

Currently 29 votes for 2♥ and 23 votes for double - but some big names have voted for double.

Interesting poll and thought provoking.

[MrAce]

Tramticket, on 2018-May-29, 01:23, said:

Currently 29 votes for 2♥ and 23 votes for double - but some big names have voted for double.

Interesting poll and thought provoking.

I did not write anything here about it because i made 2 or 3 posts in BBF in the past about my opinion of 5332 shape 2/1 overcalls. It's a no no for me, but what do i know?

[Tramticket]

MrAce, on 2018-May-29, 03:29, said:

I did not write anything here about it because i made 2 or 3 posts in BBF in the past about my opinion of 5332 shape 2/1 overcalls. It's a no no for me, but what do i know?

A 2/1 overcall with 5332 is not exactly high on my priority list either - I would certainly not consider it with a minor. But I'm not passing and 1NT with ♠JX as a stop is not attractive! Looking at it again, a take-out double does look the least bad option, but it will be hard to find our heart fit if partner has three and that is where we belong.

[Phil]

Id overcall 2♥. Turns out our best spot is playing our LHO's. Who knew!

Playing with myself Im -1100 in 2H. In an alternate universe partner has a spade void and LHO has AJ9xxx along with partner holding a better heart suit.

Which of these is more likely?