[virgosrock]

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since 2d is 4+ per blurb i bid 2h. GIBidiot jumps to 4.
I think the GIBug here is when partner has a range of "points" assume lowest of range.
But then it knows crap about the blurbs.
Luckily I was not doubled.

vrock

[steve2005]

i think that is 0-4 hcp for 2C.
But why does gib think you might have more than 4H. bidding even 3H is to high if a 4-3 fit with you having very little.

[johnu]

 steve2005, on 2018-April-16, 11:05, said:

But why does gib think you might have more than 4H.

Standard GIB canape responses to double. Either clubs or hearts could be the longest suit.

[virgosrock]

 johnu, on 2018-April-16, 12:28, said:

Standard GIB canape responses to double. Either clubs or hearts could be the longest suit.

yup. canape of course. how will we ever understand this?

vrock

[steve2005]

why cant programmer's tell Gib id partner does takeout X show your 4card major

[smerriman]

According to the descriptions, bidding 2♥ shows you're a maximum of the 0-4 range. 4 points, 5 clubs, 4 hearts actually seems to make game (double dummy) a surprising proportion of the time despite the Moysian fit; I guess due to the fact that every finesse is guaranteed to work. Looks crazy and I don't think it's right but I can actually see why GIB bid it.

[virgosrock]

 smerriman, on 2018-April-16, 18:10, said:

According to the descriptions, bidding 2♥ shows you're a maximum of the 0-4 range. 4 points, 5 clubs, 4 hearts actually seems to make game (double dummy) a surprising proportion of the time despite the Moysian fit; I guess due to the fact that every finesse is guaranteed to work. Looks crazy and I don't think it's right but I can actually see why GIB bid it.

looks like i should pass 2d then? or pass 1Nx where because of defensive carding they always make 1 to 3 overtricks in my experience OR just bid 3c over 2D.

yes, all finesses on but no entries to take them. i suppose if i have a king it will make 4H even with the terrible break.

good by gibby. is 2c ok or pass? id 2d pass ok or bid 3c?

vrock

[Stephen Tu]

2c is normal. 2d should show much longer suit which ought to be passed by West. GIB really ought to pass 2c. And 4H is nuts with only 3.

There's actually a decent argument for passing the East hand, esp against Robots who won't psych a 1nt opener, both South and West rate to be close to broke, west may not be in a good position to know to leave it in when the contract is failing.

[virgosrock]

 Stephen Tu, on 2018-April-16, 21:07, said:

2c is normal. 2d should show much longer suit which ought to be passed by West. GIB really ought to pass 2c. And 4H is nuts with only 3.

There's actually a decent argument for passing the East hand, esp against Robots who won't psych a 1nt opener, both South and West rate to be close to broke, west may not be in a good position to know to leave it in when the contract is failing.

The problem in all these type of problems is there is no invite to give partner a chance. GIBBO just jumps to game.
Especially in pass-and-murder partner later situations.

vrock