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Posted 2017-December-10, 06:43

Thoughts? I think 4S is ridiculous especially when a 3S is available. What exactly could the GIBug be?

Also, have you noticed GIBBO generally has length in one/both of opps' suits when makes fit-showing jumps i.e. 3C here.

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Posted 2017-December-10, 07:06

This is not a fit-showing jump (that would be something like (1D)-1S-(p)-3H). It's a jump cue, or a mixed raise.
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Posted 2017-December-10, 10:11

View Postgwnn, on 2017-December-10, 07:06, said:

This is not a fit-showing jump (that would be something like (1D)-1S-(p)-3H). It's a jump cue, or a mixed raise.


indeed. sorry. mixed raise as the blurb says.

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Posted 2017-December-10, 10:19

View Postvirgosrock, on 2017-December-10, 10:11, said:

indeed. sorry. mixed raise as the blurb says.

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though the se
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Posted 2017-December-10, 10:21

View Postvirgosrock, on 2017-December-10, 10:11, said:

indeed. sorry. mixed raise as the blurb says.

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though the sequence mentioned in GIBBOworld is strong hearts and i think 2- spades.

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Posted 2017-December-10, 10:29

Of course 4S is ridiculous though, sorry for not mentioning that in the first post. :) Looking forward to your next portmanteaus, keep up the good work!
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Posted 2017-December-10, 11:05

4 is hideous. The only reason Gib can count 12 points is counting singleton. You need a fit to count a singleton. The only known fit is clubs and might even be 4-3. Do you really want to be in 4 when partner opened 1 and then went quiet?
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Posted 2017-December-10, 13:45

View Poststeve2005, on 2017-December-10, 11:05, said:

4 is hideous. The only reason Gib can count 12 points is counting singleton. You need a fit to count a singleton. The only known fit is clubs and might even be 4-3. Do you really want to be in 4 when partner opened 1 and then went quiet?

agree. question is where is the bug? there should be because this is insane by any standards.

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Posted 2017-December-10, 19:25

View Postvirgosrock, on 2017-December-10, 13:45, said:

agree. question is where is the bug? there should be because this is insane by any standards.

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Gib counts shortness when it shouldn't.
Counts in NT.
Counts when shortness is in partner's suit.
Probably others.
Don't think is a bug is a design feature lol.


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Posted 2017-December-11, 05:30

View Poststeve2005, on 2017-December-10, 19:25, said:

Gib counts shortness when it shouldn't.
Counts in NT.
Counts when shortness is in partner's suit.
Probably others.
Don't think is a bug is a design feature lol.


I think the GIBug might be:
Until explicit fit is found DO NOT assume implicit fit and count "points" for singletons or doubletons. If assume implicit fit MUST HAVE 6+ cards in suit.

That should cover it. I have asked the question several times. "points" I read on BBO website 10 years ago are applicable when fit is found. BBO since then, at some point, removed the fit and points statement.

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