Inability to get UI
#1
Posted 2016-May-17, 02:36
Now partner of the player absent takes a very long tank before passing. Absent player comes back from toilet unaware. Is he subject to UI?
#3
Posted 2016-May-17, 04:37
London UK
#4
Posted 2016-May-17, 09:59
#6
Posted 2016-May-17, 11:17
Fluffy, on 2016-May-17, 02:36, said:
gordontd, on 2016-May-17, 04:37, said:
#7
Posted 2016-May-17, 11:24
nige1, on 2016-May-17, 11:17, said:
This little scenario seems contrived & fantastic, even for you Nigel!
London UK
#8
Posted 2016-May-17, 11:40
nige1, on 2016-May-17, 11:17, said:
Don't most jurisdictions have a clause that says that when screens are in use there's usually no UI from a delay in passing the board, because you can't tell which player on the other side caused the delay. And to prevent UI from the board coming back too soon if both players bid quickly, they're supposed to hold up passing the board.
#9
Posted 2016-May-17, 15:31
barmar, on 2016-May-17, 11:40, said:
#10
Posted 2016-May-17, 15:50
gordontd, on 2016-May-17, 11:24, said:
#11
Posted 2016-May-18, 07:48
barmar, on 2016-May-17, 11:40, said:
While that is true in theory Barry, in pracise there are many auctions where it is absolutely obvious that only one of the players on the other side could have a problem and that the delay is almost certainly down to them. Nigel's scenario would obviously be an unusual exception to that.
#12
Posted 2016-May-18, 07:54
George Carlin
#13
Posted 2016-May-18, 09:04
Zelandakh, on 2016-May-18, 07:48, said:
Which is why I said "usually".
Was that slam auction competitive, or have the opponents been silent throughout until the hesitation in question? If they've been silent, you'll likely assume that any hesitation is from partner. Could someone find the screen regulations that say how this should be handled? It certainly feels wrong that the partner of the player who didn't break tempo should be constrained.
#14
Posted 2016-May-19, 00:23
#15
Posted 2016-May-19, 02:46
George Carlin
#16
Posted 2016-May-19, 03:12
gwnn, on 2016-May-19, 02:46, said:
Well if (s)he turned round before leaving the room it might be possible. Another interesting situation would develop when the opps called the TD to query the situation and the player came back before the call was resolved.
#17
Posted 2016-May-19, 03:39
George Carlin
#18
Posted 2016-May-19, 03:48
gwnn, on 2016-May-19, 03:39, said:
That rather depends on the size of the room and the difficulty in moving through the tables to the exit, no?
#19
Posted 2016-May-19, 04:09
George Carlin
#20
Posted 2016-May-19, 08:21
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