Maybe I had a brain dead moment here, but... what would you do?
Flat 10
#1
Posted 2015-September-18, 11:39
Maybe I had a brain dead moment here, but... what would you do?
#4
Posted 2015-September-18, 14:53
-- Bertrand Russell
#5
Posted 2015-September-18, 15:58
Anyway, I'm bidding 4S as well, I'm too weak to handle all the bad things that can happen after a (TO)X of 4D.
#7
Posted 2015-September-18, 18:11
If double is penalty, you can't know if partner has any ♦. Also, with ♠ honors, you defensive potential is reduced because it isn't likely you'll take many ♠ tricks. Since you can't know if 4 ♦ can be beat, you shouldn't double lest you give away a game swing.
If a double is negative, there's a problem if partner bids ♣s. You have to guess whether to sit and find partner with 4 ♣, or, bid 5 ♠ and find you're 1 level too high. Even if partner has 4 ♥s, there's no guarantee it will play better than 4 ♠.
If you pass, partner may find it difficult to reopen. If partner does reopen with a double, you're back to same problem as with a direct penalty double. If partner doesn't have a hand to double, the hand will probably be passed out unless partner has some very distributional hand. 4 ♠ may make with a lot of hands where partner can't reopen. So passing risks giving away a ♠ game swing on a decent number of hands.
So 4 ♠ is the right bid any time it makes. If it goes down, you certainly have a game good explanation in the post mortem -- you had a tough decision and pushed a little to avoid losing a potential game swing. As someone suggested, by making an immediate game raise, you may push to opponents into a phantom sac that you can now double because the worry of creating a game swing has been removed.
#8
Posted 2015-September-18, 22:16
Not sure why I felt so strongly pass and punish was right. It would have been, they went down 3 in 4♦.
#9
Posted 2015-September-19, 11:03
4s
overbid. If p is short in dia 4s should be just fine (barring a really bad trump split. It would seem like x would be a good idea but it runs the risk of us bypassing 4s and ending up in 5c so too much risk when game is the limit unless p has significant extra values.
#10
Posted 2015-September-19, 18:10
#11
Posted 2015-September-19, 20:04
If RHO had bid 3♦, you would have a clear 3♠ call. Would partner go to 4?
#12
Posted 2015-September-19, 21:04
#13
Posted 2015-September-21, 02:17
Less so if they preempt aggressively but I'm still bidding 4♠. You don't really have much to gain with a double here, since your diamonds are a bit too long so very unlikely for pard to pass for penalty.
#14
Posted 2015-September-21, 06:17
diana_eva, on 2015-September-18, 22:16, said:
Not sure why I felt so strongly pass and punish was right. It would have been, they went down 3 in 4♦.
What tricks did you think you were taking in diamonds?