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#1 User is online   Cascade 

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Posted 2014-November-06, 00:44



What are your methods here?

Do you have a bid?

What is 4NT? What is 4NT by partner?

Say you pass, because double is takeout, and partner bids 4♥. What do you bid now?
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Posted 2014-November-06, 02:11

Double would be takeout. It would be my choice on 4333 with the same points but I lean towards pass on this hand (trusting partner to act on hands with very short hearts).

I prefer to balance very aggressively in this kind of situation so I won't force to slam, but 5C into 5H should show something like this hand and rates to be safe.
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Posted 2014-November-06, 03:51

Double is definitely takeout, and I would pass here. I would also pass partner's Double because my ODR is so low.

EDIT - Since partner bid 4♥ however, I am in a bind. I will take the low road by passing and collecting the game bonus. I have a bad feeling that if I bid 6, it goes Club ruff, ♥Ace for -1.
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Posted 2014-November-06, 03:52

I would pass over 4♣

Over 4♥ it is really tough call. Good topic, I am waiting to hear from others.
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Posted 2014-November-06, 03:58

If partner balances 4H letsplayslamwithenoughKEYCARDS brah
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Posted 2014-November-06, 03:58

i have 7 keycards myself boom
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Posted 2014-November-06, 04:29

canonical pass

pard, who's got like 0-1 clubs, will certainly manage to scrap up a bid if he has some cards
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Posted 2014-November-06, 05:34

4NT is to play but I am too weak for that. So pass.
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Posted 2014-November-06, 06:46

Pass over 4♣. Tank over p's 4♥, but I think I'd probably chicken out. As has been pointed out, even when p holds a dream hand, there is a significant risk of a club ruff at trick 1.
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Posted 2014-November-06, 07:00

I think I'm passing and then hanging partner by bidding 6N (get your ruff now!). If partner has AKQ-7th and out, well it's not the first time I've gone off in slam, not to mention I might still make on a club lead.
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Posted 2014-November-07, 05:24

Pass followed by 5♣. Normally I dont like to punish partner for balancing but this hand is so good that 5level should be safe.
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Posted 2014-November-07, 12:00

View PostCascade, on 2014-November-06, 00:44, said:


What are your methods here?
Do you have a bid?
What is 4NT? What is 4NT by partner?
Say you pass, because double is takeout, and partner bids 4♥. What do you bid now?
IMO
  • Double = Competitive, 4♥/4♠/4N/5♦ = NAT, 5♣ = 2-suiter.
  • Pass = 10, 4N = 9, Double = 8.
  • Over 4♣, 4N = Natural seems a sensible meaning. Or it could be straight Blackwood.
  • 4N (Keycard) = 10, 5N (Pick a slam) = 9, 6♥ = 8, 6N = 7, 5♣ (Blame transfer) = 6.

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Posted 2014-November-07, 12:52

I wonder what sober Justin would do.
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Posted 2014-November-07, 19:07

View PostCascade, on 2014-November-06, 00:44, said:



What are your methods here?

Do you have a bid?


Pass


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Say you pass, because double is takeout, and partner bids 4♥. What do you bid now?


Opposite an aggressive partner, I pass again.
With a passive partner, I bid 6♥.
I don't invite. Partner wont know when to accept.
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Posted 2014-November-08, 05:10

View Postkuhchung, on 2014-November-07, 12:52, said:

I wonder what sober Justin would do.


lol well I agree with PHANTOM, I would pass (since there is no bid w/e) and I would keycard over 4H
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