Your rebid ?
#1
Posted 2014-September-25, 07:18
With NO interference, a 2D response is waiting, but positive; whereas 2H = super negative ( no A or K or 2Q's ).
But 2nd seat DBLs 2C ( showing clubs ) and you RDBL to show your super negative :
2C - ( DBL ) - RDBL! - ( pass )
2H - ( p ) - ??
Partner bids 2H ... What would you select as your next bid :
♠ 10 9 8 7 4
♥ Q 10
♦ 10 9 5 4
♣ J 7
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#2
Posted 2014-September-25, 07:34
Btw, it may well make sense to play 2♥ Kokish in this sequence and where partner passes, particularly in this auction if your minimum for 2♣/2N is less than 23 so partner can better judge whether to bid game.
#3
Posted 2014-September-25, 08:01
-gwnn
#4
Posted 2014-September-25, 08:02
I think I try 2♠ now which partner hopefully won't pass too often. Maybe a 3♣ cuebid is more intelligent but I won't know what to do if partner bid 3NT over that.
#5
Posted 2014-September-25, 09:05
-P.J. Painter.
#6
Posted 2014-September-25, 09:25
If Opener raises Spades, immediately, I will gut out four. No slam after that 2H rebid, unless partner goes nuts liking spades a whole lot.
#7
Posted 2014-September-25, 11:33
aguahombre, on 2014-September-25, 09:25, said:
If Opener raises Spades, immediately, I will gut out four. No slam after that 2H rebid, unless partner goes nuts liking spades a whole lot.
In the UK 2♥ is FG so you begin by looking for the correct strain. (no mention of Kokish here)
#8
Posted 2014-September-25, 11:42
wanoff, on 2014-September-25, 11:33, said:
That would be strange and would mean all unbalanced 2C opening bids are forcing to game in and of themselves. Otherwise, with say a hand worth about 9 tricks for hearts and knowing partner is likely to have zero tricks to add must nevertheless proceed up there. A AKJXXX AKXX KX rebids 2NT instead of 2H when partner is known to be bust?
#9
Posted 2014-September-25, 12:23
aguahombre, on 2014-September-25, 11:42, said:
Not everybody in the UK would even open 2♣ on the hand you give. Many would open a strong 2 either directly, via a multi or via a benji style 2♣ (or 2♦ if playing reverse). I would probably open 2♣, but if any weaker at all I'd open 1♥. Also most in the UK below top level still don't play the 2♥ double neg style.
#11
Posted 2014-September-25, 12:54
#12
Posted 2014-September-25, 12:56
#13
Posted 2014-September-25, 13:11
#14
Posted 2014-September-25, 13:41
Assume 2c is not gf. assume 2h is passable.
will rebid 3nt over 2nt or 3h over 3c rebid.
#15
Posted 2014-September-25, 14:52
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#16
Posted 2014-September-25, 15:12
least 9 tricks. Unbalanced hands with minors are so difficult to show using 2c
many are opened 1m even with 23 24 counts that aren't game forcing. The point is
that once 2c is opened and 2n not rebid the simple solution to most rebidding
problems is to keep the bidding open to at least as high as 2N/3M/4m.
W/o this simple (and virtually painless) agreement we end up having to start
jumping all over the place to show slammish hands when we opened 2c in an attempt
to do avoid just that problem. This agreement vastly increases the number of hands
that a 2c bid can cover and relieves a lot of the pressure from having to decide to
underbid with a 1 level opening or force to game with a 9 trick hand. This approach
works quite well with or w/o super negatives.
The above agreement allows for a simple
2s
bid w/o any worries about suddenly being passed out and allowing the strong 2 opener room
to bid something in an attempt to describe their hand. It also means the 2h rebid was still
unlimited.
follow ups with our piece of (at least somewhat tasty) piece of cheese will mostly be natural
and designed to get us to the best contract. We have no desire to stop below game after the
bidding sequence given so my follow ups would be
2n (nf) 3n
3c 3d
3d 5d (4d would be nf)
3h (nf) 4h
3s (nf) 4s
3n pass
4c/d (splinters in support of spades) 5s
4h (nf) pass with slam interest opener should have cue bid 3c
and then bid 4h (or 3h if available)
4s (nf) pass with slam interest opener should have cue bid 3c
and then bid 4s (or 3s if available)
5c/d splinters and looking for slam
5h a rare bird where we have 5 decent (sotospeak) spades and 3+
hearts maybe QJ9xx xxx xxx xx or some such
If I have to worry about 2h being non forcing (and thus 2s non forcing)
I would be visibly irritated and thus subject to UI rules while I was considering
my next bid would be 4h saving a (NF) 3h bid for a hand with nothing but 4 hearts
in case the extra trump length made openers hand worth game.
#17
Posted 2014-September-25, 19:04
#18
Posted 2014-September-25, 19:47
aguahombre, on 2014-September-25, 09:25, said:
If Opener raises Spades, immediately, I will gut out four. No slam after that 2H rebid, unless partner goes nuts liking spades a whole lot.
West
p - ( p ) - 2C - ( DBL )
RDBL-( p )- 2H - ( p )
3H - ( p ) - 4H - all pass
Making 6H or 7S
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#19
Posted 2014-September-25, 21:19
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2014-September-25, 07:18, said:
With NO interference, a 2D response is waiting, but positive; whereas 2H = super negative ( no A or K or 2Q's ).
But 2nd seat DBLs 2C ( showing clubs ) and you RDBL to show your super negative :
2C - ( DBL ) - RDBL! - ( pass )
2H - ( p ) - ??
Partner bids 2H ... What would you select as your next bid :
♠ 10 9 8 7 4
♥ Q 10
♦ 10 9 5 4
♣ J 7
2S
#20
Posted 2014-September-25, 21:21
aguahombre, on 2014-September-25, 09:25, said:
If Opener raises Spades, immediately, I will gut out four. No slam after that 2H rebid, unless partner goes nuts liking spades a whole lot.
2C is gameforcing for the whole world unless opener rebids 2NT or unless you play Benjy 2S.