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A couple of experts have told me the X would be "takeout" or "some weird hand". I think it should be penalty. Why shouldn't it?
If you had a good hand with short ♥you could have doubled 1♥
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1H - 2H - 4H -X is it takeout or penalty or what? And why?
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Posted 2014-June-30, 18:07
A couple of experts have told me the X would be "takeout" or "some weird hand". I think it should be penalty. Why shouldn't it?
If you had a good hand with short ♥you could have doubled 1♥
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Posted 2014-June-30, 21:28
ROFL at this not being penalty! Just what hand can you hold that wants to take action at the 4 level that couldn't do it after 1♥ in this auction? Any "weird" hand can bid either Michaels or unusual 2NT.
One wonders why some players can't double anything for penalty and most especially at the game level after passing first because much of their hand was in the opp's suit. Bridge is all about bidding and making games. Sometimes one or both players has stretched on this auction and you hold a trump stack as well and can tell that declarer hasn't a chance to make even if your partner can barely follow suit and declarer can play double dummy.
One wonders why some players can't double anything for penalty and most especially at the game level after passing first because much of their hand was in the opp's suit. Bridge is all about bidding and making games. Sometimes one or both players has stretched on this auction and you hold a trump stack as well and can tell that declarer hasn't a chance to make even if your partner can barely follow suit and declarer can play double dummy.
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Posted 2014-June-30, 22:41
The auction you gave is clearly for penalty, no doubt about it!
One thing I do recommend though - if you double 1♥ or 1♠, and then double them again in 4♥ or 4♠, that it still be for takeout.
One thing I do recommend though - if you double 1♥ or 1♠, and then double them again in 4♥ or 4♠, that it still be for takeout.
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Posted 2014-July-01, 01:17
Dbl means you have
Axx
KQT
Axx
xxxx
or thereabouts.
Axx
KQT
Axx
xxxx
or thereabouts.
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Posted 2014-July-01, 02:35
peterfnyc, on 2014-June-30, 18:07, said:
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QFT
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Posted 2014-July-01, 14:55
chasetb, on 2014-June-30, 22:41, said:
The auction you gave is clearly for penalty, no doubt about it!
One thing I do recommend though - if you double 1♥ or 1♠, and then double them again in 4♥ or 4♠, that it still be for takeout.
One thing I do recommend though - if you double 1♥ or 1♠, and then double them again in 4♥ or 4♠, that it still be for takeout.
Thanks!
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Posted 2014-July-01, 14:57
whereagles, on 2014-July-01, 01:17, said:
Dbl means you have
Axx
KQT
Axx
xxxx
or thereabouts.
Axx
KQT
Axx
xxxx
or thereabouts.
Thanks
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