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favorable IMPS partner opens a weak 2s (first hand with new partner) and rho passes
you hold:
T9x KJT9xx x xxx
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what do you do now??? no poll just curious as to thought processes
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Posted 2014-June-13, 18:24
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Posted 2014-June-13, 18:36
I like 3H. It gets the right lead from partner, gets us to the four level if we have a double fit, and muddies the waters for opponents regarding our values. Against this, I will occasionally play 4S when partner feels his hand is to good to rebid 3S.
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Posted 2014-June-13, 20:18
gszes, on 2014-June-13, 17:06, said:
favorable partner opens a weak 2s (first hand with new partner) and rho passes
you hold:
T9x KJT9xx x xxx
you hold:
T9x KJT9xx x xxx
I like 3H for the lead. Yes it is forcing and I hope I keep them out of game/slam. I hope partner doesn't start Xing 4mn which I will pull of course.
Second choice is an immediate 4S.
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Posted 2014-June-13, 23:20
4♠. I am not willing to let them play 3NT, so it is better to preempt that first. If LHO doubles 4♠, there is a small possibility that RHO might try 5♥ with x Qxxx Kxxx Qxxx, and I will pass quickly. If LHO bids 5m and RHO passes, I will pass too, out of concern that 6m will probably make. If LHO bids 4NT and RHO bids 5m, I will bid 5♥ and let partner decide about 6M if they bid 6m.
If I was willing for LHO to play 3NT and my only choice was between 3♥ or 3♠ I would bid 3♠ to remove that que bid LHO would want to show a strong hand. If I did let LHO play 3NT, I prefer a top ♠ lead from KQ8xxx in hopes the ♠J drops (stiff in dummy, or ♠AJ doubleton in LHO) and partner might have a minor suit entry. I would begin the ♠ unblock at trick 1.
If I was willing for LHO to play 3NT and my only choice was between 3♥ or 3♠ I would bid 3♠ to remove that que bid LHO would want to show a strong hand. If I did let LHO play 3NT, I prefer a top ♠ lead from KQ8xxx in hopes the ♠J drops (stiff in dummy, or ♠AJ doubleton in LHO) and partner might have a minor suit entry. I would begin the ♠ unblock at trick 1.
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Posted 2014-June-14, 09:55
3S. Right on support and values.
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Posted 2014-June-14, 11:53
I'm going to PASS
Opps are game on, and LHO will bid it regardless of you bidding a number of spades or anything else.
If you pass, LHO might balance 3♦ and his pard may not want to raise it to game, as a balancing bid doesn't promise the world.
Opps are game on, and LHO will bid it regardless of you bidding a number of spades or anything else.
If you pass, LHO might balance 3♦ and his pard may not want to raise it to game, as a balancing bid doesn't promise the world.
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Posted 2014-June-14, 19:16
whereagles, on 2014-June-14, 11:53, said:
I'm going to PASS
Opps are game on, and LHO will bid it regardless of you bidding a number of spades or anything else.
If you pass, LHO might balance 3♦ and his pard may not want to raise it to game, as a balancing bid doesn't promise the world.
Opps are game on, and LHO will bid it regardless of you bidding a number of spades or anything else.
If you pass, LHO might balance 3♦ and his pard may not want to raise it to game, as a balancing bid doesn't promise the world.
This must be the Ostrich Convention
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Posted 2014-June-14, 19:50
dboxley, on 2014-June-14, 19:16, said:
This must be the Ostrich Convention
Whats the vulnerability and scoring?
I'd consider anything from pass to 3N to 3♠
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Posted 2014-June-14, 20:50
hrothgar, on 2014-June-14, 19:50, said:
Whats the vulnerability and scoring?
I'd consider anything from pass to 3N to 3♠
I'd consider anything from pass to 3N to 3♠
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Posted 2014-June-14, 20:58
gszes, on 2014-June-14, 20:50, said:
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3♠ then
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Posted 2014-June-14, 23:37
If RHO broke tempo, and so long as the opps are known to be ethical or we have screens, 3N is my choice.
RHO can have a good hand and no bid since they are too short in hearts to double. Now 3N will often buy the contract. Yes, -450 rates to be poor, but last time this happened (and I have been -450 this way) our teammates bid the making slam their way.
Otherwise, 3♠ for me. The heart length is a huge asset in that it makes takeout doubling very problematic for them. I would never bid hearts for the lead because it is forcing and I don't think the deception will help much...on some sequences it may help them more than hinder them.
RHO can have a good hand and no bid since they are too short in hearts to double. Now 3N will often buy the contract. Yes, -450 rates to be poor, but last time this happened (and I have been -450 this way) our teammates bid the making slam their way.
Otherwise, 3♠ for me. The heart length is a huge asset in that it makes takeout doubling very problematic for them. I would never bid hearts for the lead because it is forcing and I don't think the deception will help much...on some sequences it may help them more than hinder them.
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Posted 2014-June-15, 00:18
whereagles, on 2014-June-14, 11:53, said:
I'm going to PASS
Opps are game on, and LHO will bid it regardless of you bidding a number of spades or anything else.
If you pass, LHO might balance 3♦ and his pard may not want to raise it to game, as a balancing bid doesn't promise the world.
Opps are game on, and LHO will bid it regardless of you bidding a number of spades or anything else.
If you pass, LHO might balance 3♦ and his pard may not want to raise it to game, as a balancing bid doesn't promise the world.
Not the Ostrich convention, but the eminently sensible convention. I totally agree with Nuno.
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Posted 2014-June-16, 06:34
mikeh, on 2014-June-14, 23:37, said:
If RHO broke tempo, and so long as the opps are known to be ethical or we have screens, 3N is my choice.
What is the reasoning for acting differently if the opps are not known to be ethical Mike? And did you run into such pairs often at high levels, or was that only be in the early rounds of an event?
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