[jillybean]

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I will force the 1♥ opening and 3♥ rebid on you, what now?

[eagles123]

X but I really hate 3H on the previous round.

[jillybean]

poll added

[Cyberyeti]

I've comprehensively snookered myself with the 3♥ bid, I really don't see what I can do. X will cause me to play 4♠ on a 5-2 fit or 4♥ on a 5-2 or possibly 5-1. So partner should pass the double ? Yes but he might well not thinking you actually have 6 or 7 hearts. I'm unfamiliar with the naming convention for American events, is this pairs or teams ? at teams I probably stay fixed as -800 is in the frame here, but at pairs I'll risk something.

[jillybean]

I'm trying to get a poll on this as it is not so much a bidding problem but rather a laws question , but I've made a bad job at forming the question.

Back for teams today, I will check back in on this later.

[Cyberyeti]

 jillybean, on 2014-May-25, 08:57, said:

I'm trying to get a poll on this as it is not so much a bidding problem but rather a laws question , but I've made a bad job at forming the question.

Back for teams today, I will check back in on this later.

OK, then this is a real problem to get a decent poll, GL finding a sample of players who can get into the mind of somebody that would bid 3♥ here, I guess from your comment about teams today that this was pairs in which case I'll double whether it's T/O or pens, I don't really care which it is, at pairs I can't stomach pass and there's no other sensible call I can make.

[blackshoe]

If it's a laws question, why not post it in the laws forum?

I double, but I don't like it. I don't like 3♥ either.

[jillybean]

 Cyberyeti, on 2014-May-25, 10:22, said:

OK, then this is a real problem to get a decent poll, GL finding a sample of players who can get into the mind of somebody that would bid 3♥ here, I guess from your comment about teams today that this was pairs in which case I'll double whether it's T/O or pens, I don't really care which it is, at pairs I can't stomach pass and there's no other sensible call I can make.

You are right on both counts.

 blackshoe, on 2014-May-25, 12:27, said:

If it's a laws question, why not post it in the laws forum?

I was attempting to get a response to gauge if there was a LA to what occurred at the table but as cyberyeti points out, the auction makes no sense.

[Zelandakh]

4♥ would be ridiculous - we already overstated our heart length with 3♥. I think we should be told the eanings of 2NT (presumably minors) and 4♣ (extras or extra length?). We should also be told what North's options were. Someone has a lot of spades. If it is partner then we want to double and play 4♠. If East then we probably want to defend. Overall the call that seems to have the biggest upside is double but partner is never going to play me for this after 3♥.

[Fluffy]

Assuming I am a peer of a weak player who bids 3♥ because he is strong. I would feel like I have already shown my hand and pass.

[Cyberyeti]

Also need to know what 3m would have been from partner. If with a weak 2 in spades he can bid 3♦/♠ because a better hand is shown by the other, that makes a difference.

[jillybean]

 Cyberyeti, on 2014-May-26, 06:42, said:

Also need to know what 3m would have been from partner. If with a weak 2 in spades he can bid 3♦/♠ because a better hand is shown by the other, that makes a difference.

N/S have no agreements over the 2N bid.

[PhilKing]

I would have bid 3NT over 3♣. As bid, I have no idea what to do, because I do not know the form of scoring.

BTW, I agree with 1♥, but would not recommend it for players who cannot handle competition. 2NT keeps it simple.

[monikrazy]

Pass. We might be able to beat it but even if that were the case partner may pull the double playing us for a more normal shape for this auction.

[Siegmund]

You don't need one more abstention because 3H is so bad, but thats really all I can say. If you dropped me into this chair with a gun to my head I suppose I'd double. ("Sectional" implied matchpoints to me. I have sympathy for a chickenhearted pass at IMPs.)

[whereagles]

Just dbl now. You have a monster.