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Posted 2014-April-13, 12:49

Playing weak No trump (10-12/bad 13 HCP),

After Opener bids 1NT, Partner bids 2C Stayman (we don't play transfers). RHO doubles for a Club lead and we are back to Opener. Now Opener has two free bids. He can Pass or Redouble.

I am interested in what advanced/expert players might suggest
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Posted 2014-April-13, 14:57

IMO the best agreement would be:

Pass = I have clubs and some desire to play 2X (partner's rdbl can now be re-stayman)
Redouble = I don't have clubs and also don't have a major (partner should now place the contract)
2 diamonds = I have a 5+ diamond suit and no 4M
2 Major = I have 4 of this major (and presumably not good clubs as with good clubs I'd have passed)
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Posted 2014-April-13, 15:46

View PostMbodell, on 2014-April-13, 14:57, said:

IMO the best agreement would be:

Pass = I have clubs and some desire to play 2X (partner's rdbl can now be re-stayman)
Redouble = I don't have clubs and also don't have a major (partner should now place the contract)
2 diamonds = I have a 5+ diamond suit and no 4M
2 Major = I have 4 of this major (and presumably not good clubs as with good clubs I'd have passed)


thanks...the one I have seen is Pass, I have a Club stop (Qxx or better) and rdbl by partner is re-stayman
redouble is I have good 5 card suit in Clubs and is for business if partner has suitable hand.
all other bids : 2D,2H, and 2S deny a Club stop


This is similar to your structure.....These structures make sense with standard NT count; I'm not sure if weak NT is same...I guess it probably is
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Posted 2014-April-14, 01:44

View PostShugart23, on 2014-April-13, 15:46, said:

This is similar to your structure.....These structures make sense with standard NT count; I'm not sure if weak NT is same...I guess it probably is


With a strong NT worrying about the club stopper makes more sense because 3nt is more often the target and it is more often our game. If you are playing mini-NT I suspect playable partials are more often the plan, so it might make less sense to worry about stoppers for game and more sense worrying about not going for a number.
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Posted 2014-April-14, 05:15

Trying to remember what I used to play... lol.

It was something like

Rdbl = max, some clubs, can live with pard letting it in.
Pass = nothing to say, probably a min. Now responder rdbls if he wants me to respond to Stayman anyway.
2x = normal response, probably a max.
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