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How does your NT structure handle this? responding with a weakish 5-6 M & m hand

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Posted 2005-February-07, 13:53

This hand or something very similar came up a long time ago. We were playing precision at the time, but that doesn't really affect the question of:

In your structure of responses to 1NT openings (omitting Keri for now), how do you handle weakish 5M-6m hands such as x, KJ753, QTxxxx, x?

1) bid this hand with no interference.
2) what bid might you make if rho overcalls 2S/ 1NT?


If, by some chance, someone plays Stayman followed by 3 of a minor as a weak 4-6, noninvitational, how do you show GI and GF 4M-6m hands?


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Posted 2005-February-07, 14:06

Simplified Version of ETM 1NT:

222N3 transfer. (2 might be GF stayman, too, Yes, it WORKS!)
2 asking range and possibly asking minor(s).

with 5 unbalanced (possibly 5m) invitation:
start with 2 stayman and rebid 2, natural continuation.

with 5 and 5m invitation:
transfter and rebid 3m, it's not forcing!

with 5 and 5m GF:
bid 3 -> 3 deny interest in , asking minor suit; other bids= fit.

Personally, I think this structure is delicate yet fairly simple and very efficient,
esp. in terms of ratio of effectiveness to memory burden.
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Posted 2005-February-07, 14:39

These hands are too rare to create specific agreements for imo. I'd just bid 2 natural NF, and if opps bid something, I'll go to 3. This however also depends on scoring. If it's imps I'll probably just go for 2 natural NF...

Note: we play 10-12 without 5 card M, in 3rd seat 12-14 without 5s and 4th seat 14-16 without 5s (here however we play transfers, so I'd transfer in and bid 3).
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Posted 2005-February-07, 20:55

i have absolutely no way to bid that :rolleyes: ... at the table i'd have to decide whether or not i think this hand makes game vs. a 12-15 nt... i'd probably bid 2, invitational puppet stayman... after the expected 2 (yeah i know, i'd get a 2 bid for sure), i bid 2 which denies spades and shows 4+ hearts.. if partner bids 2nt, which i expect, i bid 3... now he knows i'm invitational with the reds and can do what seems right

if he bids 2 over 2, i'd probably regret ever saying anything but i'd bid 3... if 3nt, i guess i might as well bite the bullet and bid 4... he could then pass in disgust or bid 4 in disgust, after which i guess we'd figure out something for those pesky 6/5 hands that can take anywhere from 1 to 9 tricks

this is a tough hand to me
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Posted 2005-February-08, 03:24

Woops forgot something: this hand wouldn't be opened 1NT in 3rd or 4th seat, since this is a 2 opening (weak 4+ & 4+M) :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-February-08, 06:15

T/f and pass unless pd makes a super accept.
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