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one from the JEC match

Poll: one from the JEC match (19 member(s) have cast votes)

your bid...

  1. double (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 2 spades (5 votes [26.32%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.32%

  3. 3 spades (6 votes [31.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 31.58%

  4. 3NT (2 votes [10.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  5. 4 spades (6 votes [31.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 31.58%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2014-March-01, 17:58

My worst hand was this one I think.



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Posted 2014-March-01, 18:04

3
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Posted 2014-March-01, 18:09

View PostFluffy, on 2014-March-01, 17:58, said:


My worst hand was this one I think.
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IMO 3N = 10, 3 = 9, 2 = 8, 4 = 7.
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Posted 2014-March-02, 00:27

I am tempted by 3NT but this could be very stupid. I will bid 3S.
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Posted 2014-March-02, 03:11

I bid 3nt,it is hopeful to get 9 tricks.
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Posted 2014-March-02, 05:18

I play 3 stronger than 4, so i would bid 4. This shows a 7-8 card very good suit + a few values, if any, on the side, which i have.

3 in my own world/mind shows 6+ very good suit, at least semi solid, and a lot of side values and forcing to game.
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Posted 2014-March-02, 05:54

I presume the 2d opener is a weak 2 in diamonds. I wouldn't bid 3nt with 6 pretty solid spades and a worthless doubleton in hearts. Nor would I double - I don't want my p to think I might have 4 hearts. My vote is to bid what you think might make and for me that is 4s. Partner will know that I'm expecting a couple of tricks from his hand and if he has more he might go on higher. 3s might show a stronger hand being forcing.

View PostFluffy, on 2014-March-01, 17:58, said:

My worst hand was this one I think.



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Posted 2014-March-02, 11:39

I hate to make a bid that could result in a ridiculous score. 3N strikes me as that sort of bid here. Mark me down for a simple 2S, I doubt the bidding is going to die.
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Posted 2014-March-02, 13:08

View Postmcphee, on 2014-March-02, 11:39, said:

I hate to make a bid that could result in a ridiculous score. 3N strikes me as that sort of bid here. Mark me down for a simple 2S, I doubt the bidding is going to die.

I agree with Bobo here. 2 is my only bid unless I play hero bridge. My partner is not a passed hand and does my hand say any more than 2?
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Posted 2014-March-02, 15:49

3 and 4[p] led to minus very quickly, at the other table 2 led to 3NT which is very interesting.



Sorry I forgot about J on the original post, against 3NT LHO will lead Q, RHO encourages.
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Posted 2014-March-02, 16:26

View PostFluffy, on 2014-March-02, 15:49, said:

3 and 4[p] led to minus very quickly, at the other table 2 led to 3NT which is very interesting.



Sorry I forgot about J on the original post, against 3NT LHO will lead Q, RHO encourages.

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Posted 2014-March-03, 02:08

If you duck LHO will hessitate a bit and lead a low club
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Posted 2014-March-03, 05:23

View PostFluffy, on 2014-March-03, 02:08, said:

If you duck LHO will hessitate a bit and lead a low club

If East has the Q you probably lose 5 tricks no matter what you do now. (unless East has Qx)
So play West for the Q and insert the J.

If this loses to the A East can either cash his A or develop a second club trick by returning a club without cashing A.
However, if he returns a club he loses the A unless East has ATxx, which is unlikely.

(Do not tell me that East will duck with the A, which would be annoying).

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Posted 2014-March-03, 05:33

So if RHO wins A and plays a club to the queen you are playing LHO to have 10, doesn't that mean that you should play 9 from dummy?, may that comes down to determine wha tis more likelly, if LHO underleading AQ or RHO ducking Axxx
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Posted 2014-March-03, 05:39

Well, the simple line is to play w for the stiff d and 2 bullets. This is not unreasonable. Would east really open 2d with 6d and 2 aces. So you need to win the first d and pull a heart in this layout. Having ducked the d I rise c king, if east has the q I lose 2c, 2d and a h. I now run 7 s and see whatever

By the way, do some play 3s as forcing here? Weird!
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Posted 2014-March-03, 05:47

View Postrhm, on 2014-March-03, 05:23, said:

If East has the Q you probably lose 5 tricks no matter what you do now. (unless East has Qx)
So play West for the Q and insert the J.

If this loses to the A East can either cash his A or develop a second club trick by returning a club without cashing A.
However, if he returns a club he loses the A unless East has ATxx, which is unlikely.

(Do not tell me that East will duck with the A, which would be annoying).

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Posted 2014-March-04, 08:16

View Postthe hog, on 2014-March-03, 05:39, said:

By the way, do some play 3s as forcing here? Weird!


Yup, i do.

You have 2 overcall which is NF but can be upto 18 hcp for some, you have double and then spades which is 17+ hcp but also NF. I do not need another NF bid tbh. When you place 6-7 semi solid spades in a hand with a lot of side values it is usually close to 2 opener if not better than minimum 2 opener. Unless of course you are suggesting those hands should start DBL, which is a very bad idea imo to start dbl when your strength is mostly due to your shape and solid-semisolid long suit rather than defensive strength incase pd may pass the dbl.

I see this bid similar to leaping michaels (which is also GF) but 1 suited
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