[PhilKing]

 eagles123, on 2013-December-05, 17:09, said:

I play what the teacher tells me lol, it's only kinda basic system, so your methods might be useful pls

thanks,

Eagles

Well it depends what hands go through 2NT (mine does not include strong balanced). Transposing the hand I include with your strong balanced hand, the structure would be, 3♣ relay, then:

3♦ = a normal balanced hand (I guess 19 or good 18)
3♥♠NT = GF with 6+ clubs, showing feature (so on the actual hand you would bid 3NT to show both unbid suits stopped, 6 clubs and about 19-20 points)

Bids other than 3♣ (or 3NT) are natural, showing extreme distribution.

IMO, the convention is not very good to start with, because it is tactically right to respond on weak hands sometimes, but in your system you can't, because partner now forces to game with a balanced 19.

[Vampyr]

 kenrexford, on 2013-December-05, 14:19, said:

Using the three-and-a-third method of re-evaluation,

What is this?

[kenrexford]

 Vampyr, on 2013-December-06, 11:04, said:

What is this?

I think this was Ron Klinger, maybe, who came up with this. But, the idea is as follows:

Step 1: HCP count (traditional 4-3-2-1)

Step 2: Control count (A=2, K=1)

Step 3: Multiple control count by 3 1/3

Step 4: Subtract answer to Step 1 from answer to Step 3 and get a positive or negative number

Step 5: If the result is +/- anything up to 1 2/3, no adjustment. If +/-2 up to 5 2/3, add/subtract 1 from the HCP count. If 6-8 2/3, adjust by 2. If 9+, adjust by 3.

This sounds tougher than it seems. You remember the Step 3 answer automatically if you do this a lot.

As an example, this hand had AK-AK-K with a HCP of 19. AAKKK is quick math 7, which is recalled immediately from doing this so often as 23 1/3. 23 1/3 - 19 is 4 1/3. The actual math there is only "done" when close to a line (2, 6, or 9). So, this is in the +1 range.

That entire process in my mind usually goes something like this: "7+7+5=19. 4-5-6-7...23.3...4.3...+1=20" Not that long. In fact, it actually usually goes, "7-14-19. 7=4ish=20."

[Vampyr]

Thanks I guess.