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Posted 2013-January-05, 19:49



如何开叫是好呢?
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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:08

View Postlycier, on 2013-January-05, 19:49, said:



如何开叫是好呢?


我的选择是开1nt,之后同伴2c问的话,我回叫3c(2nt),其余后续正常进行
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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:18

View Postsd_bri007, on 2013-January-05, 20:08, said:

我的选择是开1nt,之后同伴2c问的话,我回叫3c(2nt),其余后续正常进行


理由不充分,你仅有14p,要违约15-17hcp的1nt的承诺?
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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:27

View Postlycier, on 2013-January-05, 20:18, said:

理由不充分,你仅有14p,要违约15-17hcp的1nt的承诺?


不违约阿,有5张套的14p就可以开1nt
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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:46

理由仍嫌不充分,进而会问:14p含5张套就可以开叫1nt?还是就像本副牌面的图形适合1nt?
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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:51

View Postlycier, on 2013-January-05, 20:46, said:

理由仍嫌不充分,进而会问:14p含5张套就可以开叫1nt?还是就像本副牌面的图形适合1nt?



当然不是什么14p+5张套都可以开

我的判断标准是,5张套不能差,

其余花色需要保护的东西太多,软点力多

双张花色要求最少是jx,
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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:59

我不太喜欢用含2套双张花色的牌去开叫NT,到不纠结于14P还是15P,尽管双张花色都有护张,首攻后不会直接被打穿,但换攻呢 :P
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Posted 2013-January-06, 08:20

我开1nt,假如有局的话,3nt优先看到。C是AK领头的6张好套,高花2个K适合主打,这样做限制性开叫后,并没有歪曲其牌型,因此不会让同伴误解,同时有对敌人的高花套有一定阻击效果
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Posted 2013-January-06, 21:15

同意木子的看法!
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Posted 2013-January-07, 06:51

View Postlipeng2076, on 2013-January-06, 08:20, said:

我开1nt,假如有局的话,3nt优先看到。C是AK领头的6张好套,高花2个K适合主打,这样做限制性开叫后,并没有歪曲其牌型,因此不会让同伴误解,同时有对敌人的高花套有一定阻击效果


朋友们,您说的那是一个主要理由,还有一个重要理由:这牌只适合自己做无将的庄,否则有两门花色的双张K被挂在明手位上打穿梭!要为同伴着想,要为后续谋定!
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Posted 2013-January-07, 06:56

实战中,大家请多多观察啊,有很多的时候,一方主打无将类定约极难打成,而换成同伴来做,轻松异常!这是为什么呢?



不为同伴谋定,无以致远;
不为后续谋动,无以制敌!
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Posted 2013-January-07, 08:57

不为同伴谋定,无以致远;
不为后续谋动,无以制敌!

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正确的判断来自经验,而经验常常来自错误的判断。

寻找自己的错误才是学习桥牌的唯一进步方法
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Posted 2013-January-09, 05:06

我会开叫1,再叫2.
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Posted 2013-January-09, 05:19

View Postsd_bri007, on 2013-January-05, 20:08, said:

我的选择是开1nt,之后同伴2c问的话,我回叫3c(2nt),其余后续正常进行

依据哈代大师的说法,这是一幅适合开叫1nt的典型牌面,因为有两枚花色的保护张,这个庄位只能交给开叫人,不适合反向。加之有5张好的低花套,即使面对14P。
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Posted 2013-January-10, 06:46

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如何开叫是好呢?

哈代大师说,半均型牌双张上有大牌,就该被看着均型牌,当短套质量较好时,叫无将总比叫质量并不好的长套描述性更强。在叫牌过程中,你一定要设法告诉同伴自己的牌是否是均型,这个问题开叫人的责任更重一些。
不管最终的定约是什么,这手牌都更适合当庄家而不是明手,定约的发展方向可能是无将定约。让这手牌成为庄家是很重要的。开叫1可能没有注意到庄位的因素。
正确的判断来自经验,而经验常常来自错误的判断。

寻找自己的错误才是学习桥牌的唯一进步方法
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Posted 2013-January-10, 19:14

View Postsungh, on 2013-January-10, 06:46, said:

哈代大师说,半均型牌双张上有大牌,就该被看着均型牌,当短套质量较好时,叫无将总比叫质量并不好的长套描述性更强。在叫牌过程中,你一定要设法告诉同伴自己的牌是否是均型,这个问题开叫人的责任更重一些。
不管最终的定约是什么,这手牌都更适合当庄家而不是明手,定约的发展方向可能是无将定约。让这手牌成为庄家是很重要的。开叫1可能没有注意到庄位的因素。


孙老板,刚才我很吃惊愣了一会,这段回复可是你本人亲自打出?
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Posted 2013-January-11, 00:18

View Postlycier, on 2013-January-10, 19:14, said:

孙老板,刚才我很吃惊愣了一会,这段回复可是你本人亲自打出?

《21世纪的二盖一》上册的第二章书上就这么写的。顺便复习了一下。
正确的判断来自经验,而经验常常来自错误的判断。

寻找自己的错误才是学习桥牌的唯一进步方法
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Posted 2013-January-11, 21:32

学习了。很有道理。
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Posted 2013-January-12, 03:17

看到各位的高见————知道了处理这种牌的方法——————谢谢!
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