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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2012-September-25, 00:36

michaels cannot be a 2 or 3 loser hand guys.



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Posted 2012-September-25, 01:23

yes it can.

no it must not.
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Posted 2012-September-25, 01:29

View Postgwnn, on 2012-September-25, 01:23, said:

yes it can.

no it must not.



no it cannot...pls stop


you cannot have michaels be that wide range from crap to slam.
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Posted 2012-September-25, 01:50

View Postmike777, on 2012-September-25, 01:29, said:

no it cannot...pls stop


you cannot have michaels be that wide range from crap to slam.

It's very common in the UK to play it bad or good with a gap in the middle though.
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Posted 2012-September-25, 01:52

It's forcing, what's the problem?
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Posted 2012-September-25, 02:05

2C is 5-5, 4C is 6-6. if you have a strong 5-5 you can always bid 2C and later double or bid a 3-card minor or something. You can't be sure to have a fit just because you have a 5-5. It's cool to give partner a chance to defend.
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Posted 2012-September-25, 02:30

It is the modern trend to play michaels unlimited. If you don't like it, nobody will care. Find a regular partner to play your system, don't blame the world to develop faster then it did last century.
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Posted 2012-September-25, 03:04

You are wrong but if you want to play 2-suited overcalls as strictly limited then I recommend structuring them so that you can bid one of the suits in a non-forcing way. As an example after they bid 1♦:-

2♦ = wjo in a major, or spades and clubs strong (unlimited)
2♥ = majors, weak
2♠ = spades + clubs, weak
2NT = hearts and clubs (sorry, this one needs to be unlimited)
3♣ = wjo
3♦ = majors strong (unlimited)

I suppose if you really wanted you could also play some sort of Leaping Michaels over a one bid to cover the times when you happen to hold a 2-3 loser hand. Or go back to the old way of the immediate cue showing a big hand. For the rest of the world though, Michaels and UNT are unlimited. I am a little confused why BBO should stop offering free bridge services because you disagree though...
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Posted 2012-September-25, 03:47

View Postmike777, on 2012-September-25, 01:29, said:

no it cannot...pls stop


you cannot have michaels be that wide range from crap to slam.

I seem to remember, that you are a fan of Bergen.

A famous statement of Bergen is - "If they open, give up on slam."

In other words, if they open, dont worry too much about freakish
two suiter with slam potential, and even than the potential usually
only materializes, when you discover a fit.

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Posted 2012-September-25, 03:56

BTW mike777 if your pickup ever has a 2-3 loser hand, rest assured he will catch up later, probably even more than he needs to. Underbidding is not one of the top 100 mistakes of pickup partners on BBO.
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Posted 2012-September-25, 19:44

Is this a similar joke to the "don't bid beyound(sic) RKC" thread? I followed that for a while hoping someone would explain the joke but they never did :(
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