[gwnn]

That will not get you a lot of points (sorry Fluffy!).

[JLOGIC]

franceeeeeeeeeeeee! boom, lets go. I fell asleep and didnt watch the last match

[paulg]

As we are at the halfway point of the Open and Senior series, and well through the Women, I have updated the scoring spreadsheet with the current positions to let you know where you stand.

[jallerton]

 Cyberyeti, on 2012-June-18, 17:14, said:

Is the objection that men -> women and gentlemen -> ladies are the pairs that go together so they feel patronised by the combination of men/ladies ?

That can't be it, as there are no EBL events solely for gentlemen/men/males/blokes. There is an Open event (open to all) so that would pair with Restricted or some similar word.

[jallerton]

 JLOGIC, on 2012-June-19, 02:20, said:

My favorite 3 teams now are England, France, and Wales. GOGOGOGOGOGOGO.

As interesting as I find long knockout matches to play for psychological elements, I find this event pretty fascinating to watch the scores of, especially today with so much hinging for so many teams on who qualifies and who doesn't. Must be a really exciting/nervous day for everyone. Also you can root for multiple teams to do well since top 6 is the goal instead of top 1 which makes it fun on more levels.

Yes, the format is fun for spectators, giving them reasons to root for lots of different teams. Unfortunately, the format is less fun for the players, particularly those who get on the wrong end of the random carry forward - or not - of particular scores from the first round robin.

[Tomi2]

 paulg, on 2012-June-19, 12:19, said:

As we are at the halfway point of the Open and Senior series, and well through the Women, I have updated the scoring spreadsheet with the current positions to let you know where you stand.

so, after winning last years BB prediction contest I am first again? goooo Monaco and stoooop the rest maybe I should become professional bridge bookmarker

[JLOGIC]

 Tomi2, on 2012-June-19, 17:28, said:

so, after winning last years BB prediction contest I am first again? goooo Monaco and stoooop the rest maybe I should become professional bridge bookmarker

My biggest regret from not winning the bermuda bowl, had I won I would have overtaken you in the prediction competition I think

[Cyberyeti]

 jallerton, on 2012-June-19, 15:32, said:

That can't be it, as there are no EBL events solely for gentlemen/men/males/blokes. There is an Open event (open to all) so that would pair with Restricted or some similar word.

Yes, but when you do see all male pairs/teams events (not in this case) it's always in my experience men not gentlemen.

[gnasher]

 paulg, on 2012-June-18, 15:56, said:

A number of women in Scotland, and perhaps from elsewhere, take great exception to the use of the term 'ladies' rather than 'women' in this context. So great that they have complained to the EBL about the championship website where the term has been used for the running scores. The EBL are apparently looking into the issue.

They don't mind playing in an event whose very existence implies that they're inferior to the rest of the population, but they do care what it's called?

[paulg]

 gnasher, on 2012-June-20, 08:18, said:

They don't mind playing in an event whose very existence implies that they're inferior to the rest of the population, but they do care what it's called?

As I said their event was inferior on my blog today I hope they agree, since they all read that if not this forum.

However, as Andy knows but perhaps non-Brits do not, there is quite a difference between ladies and women. "Ladies who bridge" do so in the afternoon, on the patio drinking tea and eating fancy cakes and discussing the weather and their gardens. The only element of competition is in baking the cakes. Women take the game more seriously.

In terms of the Scottish women, three have already played for the open team and a fourth has been close. But, as I've said previously, the experience of playing long championships, even in the Women Series, is valuable if you cannot make the open team. But, personally, I think it is an anachronism and should be abolished.

Paul
NPC, Scottish Women's team, Pau 2008

[Codo]

Some weeks ago in the "German Bridge Trophy" we played the "Netherland women" and the "Belgian ladies". So, maybe they have another point of view on this subject.

[JLOGIC]

 paulg, on 2012-June-20, 09:16, said:

As I said their event was inferior on my blog today I hope they agree, since they all read that if not this forum.

However, as Andy knows but perhaps non-Brits do not, there is quite a difference between ladies and women. "Ladies who bridge" do so in the afternoon, on the patio drinking tea and eating fancy cakes and discussing the weather and their gardens. The only element of competition is in baking the cakes. Women take the game more seriously.

In terms of the Scottish women, three have already played for the open team and a fourth has been close. But, as I've said previously, the experience of playing long championships, even in the Women Series, is valuable if you cannot make the open team. But, personally, I think it is an anachronism and should be abolished.

Paul
NPC, Scottish Women's team, Pau 2008

Tell them to man up and stop acting like girls?

Ok, bad joke.

[paulg]

 JLOGIC, on 2012-June-20, 14:05, said:

Tell them to man up and stop acting like girls?

Ok, bad joke.

Next time we play you can have Sam at your table. She scares all of us!

[Aberlour10]

Does anybody know how many European teams qualify this time for the next BB?

[Mbodell]

 Aberlour10, on 2012-June-20, 16:18, said:

Does anybody know how many European teams qualify this time for the next BB?

The top 6 team from the open qualify for the BB, no?

[paulg]

 Aberlour10, on 2012-June-20, 16:18, said:

Does anybody know how many European teams qualify this time for the next BB?

Top six in all three series.

[NickRW]

 JLOGIC, on 2012-June-20, 14:05, said:

Tell them to man up and stop acting like girls?

Ok, bad joke.

No, not bad joke. Equality fine, but personally I am a bit fed up with women/ladies behaving like they have some sort of chip on their shoulder. They're inventing the need for political correctness where there was none.

And yes I am a Brit - so Paul - so I know what you mean. I thought that sort of classist distinction went out long ago. I would have thought better of Scottish women.

Nick

[paulg]

 NickRW, on 2012-June-21, 03:40, said:

I would have thought better of Scottish women.

Just to be clear that, although it is Scottish women who are complaining, it is not the players who are in the team.

[Zelandakh]

 paulg, on 2012-June-21, 04:15, said:

Just to be clear that, although it is Scottish women who are complaining, it is not the players who are in the team.

Perhaps all of them are ladies then!

[cherdano]

 JLOGIC, on 2012-June-20, 14:05, said:

Tell them to man up and stop acting like girls?

Ok, bad joke.

Were you trying to check whether negative votes are still disabled?