Would you ever rebid 2N (nat) here?
#1
Posted 2011-February-12, 04:56
LHO overcalls 2D.
Pass (Pass) back to you.
Would you ever rebid 2N in a natural context and if so what would it show?
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#2
Posted 2011-February-12, 05:41
#3
Posted 2011-February-12, 06:13
#4
Posted 2011-February-12, 15:15
If partner had responded in an uncontested auction I would have no qualms about committing to 2N with such a hand.
In this case it remains a possibility that partner has some values and was fixed for a bid, in which case bidding 2N will work out well. It is also a possibility that he has a complete bust, and the opponents have alerted you to a vulnerability.
It is possible that the odds still favour bidding 2N as if partner had responded instead of the opponents overcalling, but I was just wondering whether that is a popular opinion.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
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2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
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#5
Posted 2011-February-13, 09:51
1eyedjack, on 2011-February-12, 15:15, said:
If partner had responded in an uncontested auction I would have no qualms about committing to 2N with such a hand.
In this case it remains a possibility that partner has some values and was fixed for a bid, in which case bidding 2N will work out well. It is also a possibility that he has a complete bust, and the opponents have alerted you to a vulnerability.
It is possible that the odds still favour bidding 2N as if partner had responded instead of the opponents overcalling, but I was just wondering whether that is a popular opinion.
I don't believe the odds favor bidding 2NT, I would reopen with a double to allow for the slim possibility that maybe partner had a trap pass or long clubs without 10 pts.
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#6
Posted 2011-February-13, 12:13
PrecisionL, on 2011-February-13, 09:51, said:
I think, and previous discussions have shown, most people consider:
1H-(2D)-3C to be game forcing (or at least to the 4-level), so partner with clubs might even have more than a ten-count. But reopening double on this auction with 3+ in diamonds is probably not catering to a trap pass (dream) and is very dangerous. As Cherdano said, if 2NT is natural, it better have the "nuts".
I think a case can be made for the 2NT reopening to be delay unusual --good hand with 6-4 in the rounded suits.
#7
Posted 2011-February-13, 18:58
PrecisionL, on 2011-February-13, 09:51, said:
It would appear to be a very slim possibilty that partner had a trap pass. If so, he can say "oh well" and bid NT at the appropriate level, knowing exactly how strong my hand is. (Neither form of scoring nor vulnerability is given, so it's not clear what potential pick-up we might be losing here.)
But... I think the chance of long clubs with <10 pts is not at all slim. If that's what partner has, I certainly want him to know the difference between a minimum opener that doubles and an 18-19 count, so he can bid game with a maximum pass but not otherwise.
#8
Posted 2011-February-14, 04:36
1eyedjack, on 2011-February-12, 04:56, said:
LHO overcalls 2D.
Pass (Pass) back to you.
Would you ever rebid 2N in a natural context and if so what would it show?
Certainly.
18-19H , regular, good stoppers.
Ideally:
- favorable vulnerability,
- rather long in ♦, trap pass from P is unlikely., neither a fit in the blacks. In that case Double is NO GOOD.
I do not like it particulary, but neither do I like pass....
#9
Posted 2011-February-15, 11:07