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Posted 2011-February-09, 13:27

IMPs nobody vul

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AKJ53
KQ532
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1!-(1 )-pass-(pass)
2 -(pass)-2 NT-(pass)
3-(pass)-4 -(pass)

1 16+
pass of 1 limited to 7(8 balanced)
rest nat
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Posted 2011-February-09, 13:38

Pass. Since partner has spade values, we have two top losers in the minors quite likely, and then we need a lot of luck for the red suits to come in - e.g. if partner has xx Axx we need essentially hearts 3-3, or Q doubleton together with two diamonds. (If partner had Axxx or similar he could have bid more strongly with 3.)
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Posted 2011-February-10, 14:58

Partner could've tried 3NT or 3 over the 3 call. In fact it seems pretty normal to bid 3 on hands where you have something of a diamond fit but still want to be able to play in 3NT. For this reason, I think the 4 call should imply a really good diamond fit, such that game/slam in diamonds seems likely. If partner has Axxxx then we're basically cold for 5 regardless of the rest of partner's hand, and I don't think four small diamonds (and the inevitable values in the blacks) would be a good reason to bypass 3NT. I'm taking a shot at 5.
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Posted 2011-February-10, 20:15

This is imps and partner could have some average hands where game is ok. Jxxx K and a spade value we are then playing the overcaller for the Ace of clubs. I raise to 5D
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Posted 2011-February-11, 08:43

I'd bid 4 as choice of games.
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Posted 2011-February-12, 14:31

partner had

108xx
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Posted 2011-February-19, 08:35

I would pass. Pard's hand is the magic hand.
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