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Posted 2011-February-08, 13:19



Your lead to 3N.

What do you choose, and how difficult was your decision (what else were you considering)?

edit: 3N denies a 4cm
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Posted 2011-February-09, 07:44

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Posted 2011-February-10, 09:10

spade Q

The bidding was suspect at best (w/o knowing the opps agreements when using MSS).
There is a pretty fair chance Rho has reached with 3n bid. While P may not have
a ton of values it is easy for them to have spade length making the spade Q a huge
favorite to not give away contract while having a strong chance to set it.

A low heart while more aggressive has a much greater chance of giving declarer a
trick in an otherwise unmakeable game and it is very unlikely the 4th heart will
be sufficient to set the contract


spade Q = 10
low heart = 5
pretty much everything else = 0
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Posted 2011-February-10, 09:45

 gszeszycki, on 2011-February-10, 09:10, said:

spade Q

The bidding was suspect at best (w/o knowing the opps agreements when using MSS).
There is a pretty fair chance Rho has reached with 3n bid. While P may not have
a ton of values it is easy for them to have spade length making the spade Q a huge
favorite to not give away contract while having a strong chance to set it.

A low heart while more aggressive has a much greater chance of giving declarer a
trick in an otherwise unmakeable game and it is very unlikely the 4th heart will
be sufficient to set the contract


spade Q = 10
low heart = 5
pretty much everything else = 0


I don't see why you think their bidding is suspect when you say you don't know their agreements.

Their agreements are 2S = MSS, game forcing
3C/3D natural, 4+
2N: max with a 5cm
3M both minors, low end/high end
3N = no 4 card minor
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Posted 2011-February-10, 15:53

 wyman, on 2011-February-10, 09:45, said:

I don't see why you think their bidding is suspect when you say you don't know their agreements.

Their agreements are 2S = MSS, game forcing
3C/3D natural, 4+
2N: max with a 5cm
3M both minors, low end/high end
3N = no 4 card minor


QS


ahh so the opp have not told us their full agreements....2s was gf....but we were not told that.

many do not play 2s as gf ...

in fact a common version is either weak with long d, weak with both minors (5-5) OR SLAM TRY WITH BOTH minors.
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Posted 2011-February-10, 17:25

 mike777, on 2011-February-10, 15:53, said:

QS


ahh so the opp have not told us their full agreements....2s was gf....but we were not told that.

many do not play 2s as gf ...

in fact a common version is either weak with long d, weak with both minors (5-5) OR SLAM TRY WITH BOTH minors.


I play this way but include a balanced invite; never considered it MSS, though, since it doesn't ask opener about a 4cm. Opener's response is:
2N with any hand that would decline a balanced invite
3m with a hand that would accept an invite, m is his better minor

Anyway, sorry for not fully disclosing opps' agreements; I thought standard was that MSS was GF.

Anyway, partner and I had strong opinions about the opening lead here. One of us felt it was a clear major-suit lead situation, and the other thought it was a clear minor-suit lead situation. Hence why I posted it.
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