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Playing standard cues. (Ace,King,Singleton,Void)
In an auction where the first cue is in partners first bid suit, what agreement do you have, what exactly are you showing?
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Cue bid - what is expert standard?
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Posted 2010-November-18, 09:37
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Posted 2010-November-18, 09:54
I believe the expert standard for a cue in partner's main suit is either A/K/Q.
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Posted 2010-November-18, 10:19
I would expect the A or the K.....I don't play on the circuit so I may be out of touch, but I think cuebidding the Queen would not be viewed as 'standard'...that's not the same as saying it would be 'wrong' or 'bad' and, as I say, I may be incorrect anyway. I do think that there is a strong argument that it ought not to be shortness if made as the first cue.
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Posted 2010-November-18, 10:40
Normally Ace or King.
Exception: Might be singleton (or Void) if the cuebidder have either:
- Certain knowledge of ten thrumph's in the combined hands (Quite unlikely here.)
- A hand where you feel confident partners suit need not be established.
An example hand of the second type:
♠Kx
♥x
♦ KQJ10x
♣ AJxxx
I wont preclude other exceptions, but they dont spring to mind.
Exception: Might be singleton (or Void) if the cuebidder have either:
- Certain knowledge of ten thrumph's in the combined hands (Quite unlikely here.)
- A hand where you feel confident partners suit need not be established.
An example hand of the second type:
♠Kx
♥x
♦ KQJ10x
♣ AJxxx
I wont preclude other exceptions, but they dont spring to mind.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2010-November-19, 08:43
OleBerg, on 2010-November-18, 10:40, said:
Normally Ace or King.
Exception: Might be singleton (or Void) if the cuebidder have either:
- Certain knowledge of ten thrumph's in the combined hands (Quite unlikely here.)
- A hand where you feel confident partners suit need not be established.
An example hand of the second type:
♠Kx
♥x
♦ KQJ10x
♣ AJxxx
I wont preclude other exceptions, but they dont spring to mind.
Exception: Might be singleton (or Void) if the cuebidder have either:
- Certain knowledge of ten thrumph's in the combined hands (Quite unlikely here.)
- A hand where you feel confident partners suit need not be established.
An example hand of the second type:
♠Kx
♥x
♦ KQJ10x
♣ AJxxx
I wont preclude other exceptions, but they dont spring to mind.
I would expect:
- A/K/Q in ♥
- Isn't 4♥ denying a ♦ control?
- I think I would RKC with you example hand
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Posted 2010-November-19, 08:50
In general Ace or king, but as Ole said there are exceptions that allow a singleton, some form of extras normally.
for example on this hand dealer could have ♠A ♥x ♦QJxxxx ♣AKQxx or even a bit less also.
for example on this hand dealer could have ♠A ♥x ♦QJxxxx ♣AKQxx or even a bit less also.
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Posted 2010-November-19, 11:09
Ace or king. I would need a discussion (or to be looking at the AK) before assuming a queen was possible.
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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2010-November-19, 15:19
kgr, on 2010-November-19, 08:43, said:
I would expect:
- A/K/Q in ♥
- Isn't 4♥ denying a ♦ control?
- I think I would RKC with you example hand
- A/K/Q in ♥
- Isn't 4♥ denying a ♦ control?
- I think I would RKC with you example hand
Yes, bad example hand, written in a hurry. I still consider the points valid however.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
_____________________________________
We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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