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Posted 2010-August-22, 07:32

Scenario---one is defending 3n/t or game bid in a suit-Or even part scores.
in either

You are on lead you have a flat hand xxx--Kxx-QJ8x--xxx.
not a 10 in sight---and not even a 987. opps in suit/nt contract,partial or game.
from the diamond suit held---small or Q, or one does not lead a Diamond at all.
Damm,the non d lead costs...there again if i lead small where is ithe 10 in dummy,with the ace or K. same problem if i lead the Q 75% the 10 in dummy.
the outside K has been suitwise bid on your left,or bid on your right.

Im Just asking----Or is it go with the flow {the Diamond suit has not been bid}
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Posted 2010-August-22, 07:37

Until we're allowed to look at everyone's hand before leading, we're not going to get it right every time. Listen to the bidding, see if there are any clues (did partner open, did he overcall, have the opps discovered a fit, have they shown weaknesses in any suit etc)
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Posted 2010-August-22, 07:37

Without any additional clues, I would usually lead the Q in a suit contract and a small one in NT.
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Posted 2010-August-22, 10:08

Little Kid, on Aug 22 2010, 08:37 AM, said:

Without any additional clues, I would usually lead the Q in a suit contract and a small one in NT.

this would be my preference as well
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Posted 2010-August-22, 11:28

taking in advice offered,raises another point in ones problem--lots of profiles,mention loads of widgets--but no one states leads and carding,i notiice persons on lead lead an 8 or a 7 from strength when in my book its from nothing.abadoning 3/4/5/highest
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Posted 2010-August-22, 12:24

has it happened to me that I gave away a contract or some unnecessary overtricks with my lead? NEVER
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Posted 2010-August-22, 12:57

Standard top Italian operating procedure appears to be to lead an honour from two touching honours if the highest pip is the eight or better, and to lead low otherwise. I don't expect it works all the time, but those guys know a lot more about what works most of the time than I do.
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Posted 2010-August-22, 13:04

when I lead the queen, it seems that the ten and an honor show up in dummy more often than they should. But sometimes the honor-ten are doubleton. It seems "low" has fewer gain scenarios than queen or leading some other suit, if the opponents have the ten ---and a lot of "who cares?" situations if partner has the ten.
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Posted 2010-August-22, 14:20

Prefer the Q, but with five of them prefer low at avoid blocking the suit. At matchpoints I would do the same but I might not lead the suit at all and just go passive instead.
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Posted 2010-August-22, 14:28

Pavlicek has a study of this kind of problem at:

http://www.rpbridge.net/8c01.htm

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Posted 2010-August-22, 14:50

Dirk Kuijt, on Aug 22 2010, 02:28 PM, said:

Pavlicek has a study of this kind of problem at:

http://www.rpbridge.net/8c01.htm

Could someone translate it into an answer of the question in the OP? I got dizzy.
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Posted 2010-August-22, 15:21

If I understood the site correctly he is saying leading the Queen gets on average 2.3355 tricks from QJ82 and leading the 4th best 2.3264. For this combination in particular though I think the double dummy analysis is biased in favour of leading the Queen. In practise leading low from QJ82 will make declarer guess wrong often more than leading your Queen.
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Posted 2010-August-22, 17:21

grunch: 3 times
OK
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Posted 2010-August-22, 17:45

Every time I lead Q from QJ dummy had H10 it's a fact.
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Posted 2010-August-23, 12:32

for what it is worth with the QJxx i have led the J :):)-rather than lead a top or middle or low of nothing-partners cannot cope with a mud lead--coming back to the QJxx lead---the 10 is 75/80% in dummy-------will look up Pav************
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