[TimG]

Benoit35, on May 21 2009, 12:32 PM, said:

We don't have game points, we play that 3♠ in response to Drury is a minimum opening hand (whereas 2♠ would have been sub-minimum) with no other feature worth bidding.

Does this make sense? It sounds to me like 2S shows a sub-minimum and 3S shows a hand that would not bid game opposite a limit raise. Don't you want to try to play 2S with either?

[crazy4hoop]

TimG, on May 21 2009, 03:47 PM, said:

Benoit35, on May 21 2009, 12:32 PM, said:

We don't have game points, we play that 3♠ in response to Drury is a minimum opening hand (whereas 2♠ would have been sub-minimum) with no other feature worth bidding.

Does this make sense? It sounds to me like 2S shows a sub-minimum and 3S shows a hand that would not bid game opposite a limit raise. Don't you want to try to play 2S with either?

We don't have game points, we play that 3♠ in response to Drury...

I don't believe whatever you play in response to Drury is relevant here. You are not allowed to have the alert procedure inform you that your partner's bids are based on his beliefs of your bid being Drury. You must bid your hand as if your partner knew your 2♦ bid was natural.

Other posters please inform me if I am mistaken, thanks.

[JoAnneM]

That was the point of his original post. He bid as if the 2d bid was natural, the 3S bid was a real jump in spades, and they went down.

[crazy4hoop]

Agreed but it was starting to sound like he was doubting himself when he clearly did the right thing.

[Tola18]

Benoit35, on May 21 2009, 07:31 AM, said:

I'm afraid I'm going to think twice about doing the same thing.

DONT think twice! Better be prepared and act casually in tempo. IF you think twice, there can be a break in tempo - and it may become a new ethical dilemma!

[TimG]

crazy4hoop, on May 21 2009, 10:05 PM, said:

TimG, on May 21 2009, 03:47 PM, said:

Benoit35, on May 21 2009, 12:32 PM, said:

We don't have game points, we play that 3♠ in response to Drury is a minimum opening hand (whereas 2♠ would have been sub-minimum) with no other feature worth bidding.

Does this make sense? It sounds to me like 2S shows a sub-minimum and 3S shows a hand that would not bid game opposite a limit raise. Don't you want to try to play 2S with either?

We don't have game points, we play that 3♠ in response to Drury...

I don't believe whatever you play in response to Drury is relevant here.

Relevant for the non-alert problem? No.

An issue raised in the thread that might be of interest to the poster? Yes.