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Playing with Meckstroth... Opening?

Poll: What is your opening bid? (50 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your opening bid?

  1. 1D (7 votes [14.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.00%

  2. 2C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 2D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 3D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3NT (20 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  6. 4D (1 votes [2.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.00%

  7. 5D (22 votes [44.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.00%

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#21 User is offline   straube 

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Posted 2009-February-02, 14:52

Would 4N (asking aces) make any sense? If partner has 2 I'll gamble on slam and if 0 or 1, I'll retire in 5D.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 16:02

straube, on Feb 2 2009, 09:52 PM, said:

Would 4N (asking aces) make any sense? If partner has 2 I'll gamble on slam and if 0 or 1, I'll retire in 5D.

The problem with that is that a lot of people play specific ace ask, so they will bid 5M with 1 ace forcing you to slam off 2 aces.

5 for me. 9 diamonds is just too many to me. The chance that partner is void is very real (yes he will take that out, but will you bid 5 over 4- if so, you've given the opps 2 chances to act)
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Posted 2009-February-02, 17:14

mtvesuvius, on Feb 2 2009, 12:06 PM, said:

8 board Swiss Team match, V vs NV you hold:

T5
3
AKQJT9752
8

You deal, what's your bid?

Whatever Meckstroth suggested in the post mortem.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 17:29

"Nail told the story repeatedly. He was an avid money bridge player in the day…….



He played on Tuesday afternoons with one of his customers, Mable, a sweet little 86 year old dowager who could barely see or hear but loved to play bridge with Nail at the money club.



It was the last set of the afternoon for them. He looked down at the 4th hand of a Chicago , and held x,x,x,AKQJT9xxxx in 2nd seat. On the 4th hand in Chicago deals, it is ALL VULNERABLE. After his RHO passed, nothing seemed quite right, so Bobby decided to pass. He had seen these types of hands many times before, and it NEVER went ALL PASS.



Well, his LHO passed after a few seconds thought, and Bobby began to feel a little uneasy.



Next it was Mable’s turn to speak, and she went into the tank.



“Come on, Mable”, Bobby thought to himself. “Come on, MABLE”, he thought even louder. This was before ESP had made its splash so no one ever thought of willing someone to do something, but, if Bobby could have, he was trying!!!!



“COME ON, MABLE!!!!!” Sweat was going over his glasses, but it was only obvious to him……



Finally, Mable passed throwing her cards on to the table in disgust and exclaiming, “Well, I wanted to open, but all I had were these three bare Aces!!!!!”"
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Posted 2009-February-02, 23:58

;) Pass
When in doubt, pass
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Posted 2009-February-03, 00:15

mike777, on Feb 3 2009, 06:29 AM, said:

"Nail told the story repeatedly.  He was an avid money bridge player in the day…….



He played on Tuesday afternoons with one of his customers, Mable, a sweet little 86 year old dowager who could barely see or hear but loved to play bridge with Nail at the money club.



It was the last set of the afternoon for them.  He looked down at the 4th hand of a Chicago , and held x,x,x,AKQJT9xxxx in 2nd seat.  On the 4th hand in Chicago deals, it is ALL VULNERABLE.  After his RHO passed, nothing seemed quite right, so Bobby decided to pass.  He had seen these types of hands many times before, and it NEVER went ALL PASS.



Well, his LHO passed after a few seconds thought, and Bobby began to feel a little uneasy.



Next it was Mable’s turn to speak, and she went into the tank.



“Come on, Mable”, Bobby thought to himself.  “Come on, MABLE”, he thought even louder.  This was before ESP had made its splash so no one ever thought of willing someone to do something, but, if Bobby could have, he was trying!!!!



“COME ON, MABLE!!!!!” Sweat was going over his glasses, but it was only obvious to him……



Finally, Mable passed throwing her cards on to the table in disgust and exclaiming, “Well, I wanted to open, but all I had were these three bare Aces!!!!!”"

This was not Bobby Nail. This was Adam Meredith in England!

Anyway, i don't care who i am playing, this is an obvious 5D bid. I agree, 3NT is awful. Pass is unfathomable.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 03:56

Pass and then transfer to diamonds, make Meckstroth declarer ;-)
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Posted 2009-February-03, 14:30

What did Meckstroth say?
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Posted 2009-February-03, 14:38

keylime, on Feb 2 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

For me, slam is at best, a secondary concern.

My main concern, is to preempt the majors to heck and back. 5 does do that definitely, but for flexibility, I chose 3NT. I wonder what Larry would choose; I wouldn't be surprised if he tables 5 himself knowing him.

I Table 5  :lol: a good Trent pre-empt and partner knows what to do with 2 Quick Tricks (p) or 3 Q.T. (6).

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Posted 2009-February-03, 14:42

See, I know my partner. I expect he would have me table 3NT because, well he knows me too!
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Posted 2009-February-03, 16:10

I chose 3NT... (Although I wasn't happy about it). LHO bid 4, Meckstroth doubled, do you bid 5 or Pass?
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Posted 2009-February-03, 16:20

You should never bid 5D, at least bid 4N if you bid. I would pass the double though.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 16:31

mtvesuvius, on Feb 3 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

I chose 3NT... (Although I wasn't happy about it). LHO bid 4, Meckstroth doubled, do you bid 5 or Pass?

I would bid 4NT.
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