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#1 User is offline   kenrexford 

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Posted 2008-December-11, 23:37

One of the other threads got me thinking.

1♥-2♣
2♥-2NT
3♥-?

As things are:

3♠ = spade cue, hearts agreed. Opener can bid serious 3NT.
3NT = to play
4♣ = club cue, but no knowledge of how serious Responder is, just that he has no spade control
4♦ = same thing as 4♣, essentially (a cue, but no seriousness statement)

As things could be:

3♠ = relay to 3NT (lead-director double would be by the person on lead if Responder then passes)
3NT = serious spade cue
4♣ = serious club cue
4♦ = serious diamond cue
3♠...4♣ = cooperative club cue
3♠...4♦ = cooperative diamond cue
3♠...4♥ = cooperative spade cue
(Opener can reject relay by bidding 4♥ or making a cue.)
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Posted 2008-December-12, 00:00

I think this would work pretty well. Might be tough to remember though. with no wakeup effect.
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Posted 2008-December-12, 00:35

Fine in theory, would never play this in practice. The gains here are (clearly, in my opinion) not enough to justify it.
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Posted 2008-December-12, 00:38

Another win for 3NT "non-serious." You don't need any special gadget and certainly nothing specific to this auction, just:

3♠, 4♣, 4♦ = cue for hearts
3NT = bad hand for heart slam (NF)
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Posted 2008-December-12, 00:47

awm, on Dec 12 2008, 01:38 AM, said:

Another win for 3NT "non-serious." You don't need any special gadget and certainly nothing specific to this auction, just:

3♠, 4♣, 4♦ = cue for hearts
3NT = bad hand for heart slam (NF)

How is this different from standard?
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Posted 2008-December-12, 07:22

maggieb, on Dec 12 2008, 01:47 AM, said:

awm, on Dec 12 2008, 01:38 AM, said:

Another win for 3NT "non-serious." You don't need any special gadget and certainly nothing specific to this auction, just:

3♠, 4♣, 4♦ = cue for hearts
3NT = bad hand for heart slam (NF)

How is this different from standard?

It is not. It is random, non-responsive gibberish that misses the point.
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Posted 2008-December-12, 13:22

very cute
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Posted 2008-December-12, 13:39

Agree, it's very nice. It's very specific to this auction so I wouldn't agree to play it.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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