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The heart suit - III inter-county teams-of-8

Poll: another long suit (22 member(s) have cast votes)

another long suit

  1. Pass (10 votes [45.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.45%

  2. 3[HE] (4 votes [18.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  3. 4[HE] (8 votes [36.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.36%

  4. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

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Posted 2008-December-01, 03:41

imps, again
Scoring: IMP

1♠ 2♣ 2♥ P
2♠ P P ?


A somewhat surprising start to the auction...
2♥ was natural, 5+ hearts, forcing for one round ("Acol-style")
2♠ showed a minimum opening, 5+ spades

Double now would be for take-out, I don't recommend it
All heart bids now would be natural, last round they would have agreed clubs
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Posted 2008-December-01, 04:29

Pass.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-December-01, 05:17

Pass
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Posted 2008-December-01, 06:22

Is there any possibility that the opps are not joking around?

Declarer has AKQxxx,V,Jxxx,Qxx
RHO has x,Axxxx,KQxx,Jxx?
Pd has x,x,Jxxx,AKxxxxx?

Sorry that makes no sense to me, so I bet someone is jokering around.
I bid 4 Heart. IF anybody has his bid, this will be no fun, but I don't belive my opps this time.
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Posted 2008-December-01, 09:27

I don't think anyone is fooling around: not at this vulnerbility and not when rho lacks a big spade fit... he can't afford to bid a short heart suit when partner might raise.

I suspect I can make 2♥ (they will lead a high spade and may cash some winners, give RHO a ruff, and now I am in control). However, they might not, or rho may have 6 trump... anyway, we rate to do okay against 2♠, especially if partner has the void heart.
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Posted 2008-December-01, 09:34

I'm going to bid 3♥.

Something is fishy, opps bid the majors and partner didn't Dbl for TO again, yet didn't have a weak jump. We have the balance of power, but ♠ are all in front of the long hand. Still I think passing is going to cost...
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Posted 2008-December-01, 09:43

mikeh, on Dec 2 2008, 12:27 AM, said:

I don't think anyone is fooling around: not at this vulnerbility and not when rho lacks a big spade fit... he can't afford to bid a short heart suit when partner might raise.

I suspect I can make 2♥ (they will lead a high spade and may cash some winners, give RHO a ruff, and now I am in control). However, they might not, or rho may have 6 trump... anyway, we rate to do okay against 2♠, especially if partner has the void heart.

May you construct a hand for me which fits the bidding so far?

For me, this is really difficult.

I still guess that they had a misunderstanding or a kind of bluff.
My pd has a 0346 hand, declarer something like 5143, responder 3244 and I have my 5710. :)
Responder thought that they play transfers after 1 ♠ 2 ♣, opener was not in this secret. Or responder tried to a bluff.
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Posted 2008-December-01, 10:15

Codo, on Dec 1 2008, 09:43 AM, said:

May you construct a hand for me which fits the bidding so far?

For me, this is really difficult.

LHO AKxxxx v Jxxxx Qx
RHO Q A987x Kxx xxxx
Partner x x Qxxx AKJxxxx

You don't have to agree with every bid for the auction to be possible...

I still find a strange bid here and an overbid there more likely than a psych in a non-fit auction.
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Posted 2008-December-01, 11:32

Thanks Arend, you are right, these hands are possible and fits well to the auction.

I still don't belive that this is what happened, but at least I can see the possibility at last.
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Posted 2008-December-02, 08:26

I had this hand and passed, which was +200 on a cross-ruff.
Everyone does (more or less) have their bids.

If you bid 3H it will make in practice, although double dummy 3H is one off.

There is an upside to bidding 3H, which is that RHO might double you in it, and you will finish with +730. There's no real reason why he should double if he trusts you, but perhaps he doesn't...

RHO has

x
A9xxx
QJ10x
QJx


LHO has
KQ987
x
Kxxx
Kxx

Our four scores were +140 in 3H (different auction), +200 (us), -200 (team-mates sitting the other way), -730 (team-mates who didn't trust their oppo)
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Posted 2008-December-02, 15:43

FrancesHinden, on Dec 1 2008, 04:41 AM, said:

Dealer: West
Vul: Both
Scoring: IMP
♠ J10432
♥ KQJ10752
♦ A
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1♠ 2♣ 2♥ P
2♠ P P ?
A somewhat surprising start to the auction...
2♥ was natural, 5+ hearts, forcing for one round ("Acol-style")
2♠ showed a minimum opening, 5+ spades
Double now would be for take-out, I don't recommend it
All heart bids now would be natural, last round they would have agreed clubs
IMO _P = 10, 3♥ = 8
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