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A simple 7 NT hand Bad bidding will make you great declarer

#1 User is offline   zenko 

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Posted 2008-November-15, 12:04

Scoring: MP

1(16+)-p-1(0-8)-1-2-p-3NT-p-4(Gerber)-p-4-p-7NT!


10 of spades lead

Can you back up partner's supreme confidence in your declarer skills?
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Posted 2008-November-15, 14:15

I really liked that board, tribute to Geza Ottlik !
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Posted 2008-November-15, 15:08

ugh Edi, then I will stop thinking about the hand! <_<
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Posted 2008-November-15, 15:24

I would play LHO for:
Kxxxx
??
KJ??
Kx
 
Take Q and small to Q and the A.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 15:36

Play LHO for Kx, so play low to the J and A, dropping his K. Back to hand with the T, and take the diamond finesse. Then run off the winners, and west will be criss-cross squeezed.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 17:47

kgr, on Nov 15 2008, 04:24 PM, said:

I would play LHO for:
Kxxxx
??
KJ??
Kx
 
Take Q and small to Q and the A.

a) do you really think W would lead vs 7 NT 10 form K109xx?

:) if club king is doubleton, it is still only 12 tricks 2spades+4hearts+2diamonds+4clubs
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Posted 2008-November-15, 17:50

maggieb, on Nov 15 2008, 04:36 PM, said:

Play LHO for Kx, so play low to the J and A, dropping his K. Back to hand with the T, and take the diamond finesse. Then run off the winners, and west will be criss-cross squeezed.

You are on the table running your winners, how do you plan to criss, or more precisely to cross back to your hand, if you have no entry West can not feel any pressure
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Posted 2008-November-15, 18:04

maggieb, on Nov 15 2008, 04:36 PM, said:

Play LHO for Kx, so play low to the J and A, dropping his K. Back to hand with the T, and take the diamond finesse. Then run off the winners, and west will be criss-cross squeezed.

OK so let say that K of clubs is doubleton, you will end up on the table in this 3-card ending:

on the table Jx spades and high heart (or high club depending what do you cash first) and in your hand Ax of spades and 10 of diamonds, whatever you pitch from your hand on trick 11, West pitches the same behind you, that does not seem to work.

hint - winning line does not depend on K of clubs being doubleton
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Posted 2008-November-15, 18:14

zenko, on Nov 15 2008, 07:04 PM, said:

maggieb, on Nov 15 2008, 04:36 PM, said:

Play LHO for Kx, so play low to the J and A, dropping his K. Back to hand with the T, and take the diamond finesse. Then run off the winners, and west will be criss-cross squeezed.

OK so let say that K of clubs is doubleton, you will end up on the table in this 3-card ending:

on the table Jx spades and high heart (or high club depending what do you cash first) and in your hand Ax of spades and 10 of diamonds, whatever you pitch from your hand on trick 11, West pitches the same behind you, that does not seem to work.

hint - winning line does not depend on K of clubs being doubleton

I didn't cash the A, only the hearts and clubs.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 21:37

maggieb, on Nov 15 2008, 04:36 PM, said:

Play LHO for Kx, so play low to the J and A, dropping his K. Back to hand with the T, and take the diamond finesse. Then run off the winners, and west will be criss-cross squeezed.

and what if West has say 5134 distribution?
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Posted 2008-November-15, 21:41

Jx A A

opp

Ax Tx

Play the heart from dummy, pitch your spade, and west can't keep guards in both suits.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 21:54

Does anyone really think West is underleading the K here?
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Posted 2008-November-15, 21:57

zenko, on Nov 15 2008, 10:37 PM, said:

maggieb, on Nov 15 2008, 04:36 PM, said:

Play LHO for Kx, so play low to the J and A, dropping his K. Back to hand with the T, and take the diamond finesse. Then run off the winners, and west will be criss-cross squeezed.

and what if West has say 5134 distribution?

Ok, then I just run 4 hearts and 3 spades and 2 diamonds and squeeze lefty in the minors.

This problem is a fantasy, so I play for the fantastic position. At the table I would obviously play RHO for the K and do this.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 21:58

Guys, as Edmunte1 has already noted, zenko pulled this hand from Adventures in Card Play.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 04:30

zenko, on Nov 16 2008, 01:47 AM, said:

kgr, on Nov 15 2008, 04:24 PM, said:

I would play LHO for:
Kxxxx
??
KJ??
Kx
 
Take Q and small to Q and the A.

a) do you really think W would lead vs 7 NT 10 form K109xx?

:rolleyes: if club king is doubleton, it is still only 12 tricks 2spades+4hearts+2diamonds+4clubs

As explained by maggie we get the 13th trick via a squeeze.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 04:44

If RHO has K then we need to have LHO to have both other kings.
If LHO has Kx then we can play small to Q and A.
If LHO has Kxx we can play T and use Q for finesse.
If LHO has Kxxx then we need to do something more, we will need that LHO also has J:

Play 7 (squeeze LHO later to make 5 another entry) from dummy.
Play Q and A and AKQJ ending with:

If LHO discards a then you have the entries by taking over J with the Q (LHO will be squeezed again when crossing back after the finessse).
If LHO discards a we can play T
If LHO discard K then we also take over J with the Q. LHO will be squeezed again when we play T.
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