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Over 3N

Poll: Over 3N (28 member(s) have cast votes)

Over 3N

  1. Pass (18 votes [64.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.29%

  2. 4 clubs (2 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  3. 4 Diamonds (5 votes [17.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.86%

  4. 4N (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Something else (3 votes [10.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.71%

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Posted 2008-November-06, 09:28

pclayton, on Nov 6 2008, 09:07 AM, said:

Pard held: x AK, AKJTxxx, KJx. This looks like an uber-max to me, doesn't it to you?

As I mentioned, I think you should expect one knowing partner doesn't have a solid suit.
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Posted 2008-November-06, 09:58

Still another example of a good hand for a forcing jump rebid in a minor suit.

This hand would be so much easier if the auction started 1 - 1 - 3 (forcing).

While you may expect partner to have this hand, given that you have Qxx of diamonds, what would you think if you had xxx of diamonds?
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Posted 2008-November-06, 10:18

ArtK78, on Nov 6 2008, 10:58 AM, said:

This hand would be so much easier if the auction started 1 - 1 - 3 (forcing).

Why would it be easier if 3NT essentially shows the same hand? Would you rebid something below 3NT as responder? A 3NT rebid is actually more descriptive, so I say it leads to a better auction than a forcing 3 rebid.
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Posted 2008-November-06, 11:39

jdonn, on Nov 6 2008, 11:18 AM, said:

ArtK78, on Nov 6 2008, 10:58 AM, said:

This hand would be so much easier if the auction started 1 - 1 - 3 (forcing).

Why would it be easier if 3NT essentially shows the same hand? Would you rebid something below 3NT as responder? A 3NT rebid is actually more descriptive, so I say it leads to a better auction than a forcing 3 rebid.

Yeah, but if 3 is forcing, then...

3 could show the heart Queen and diamond support, except that it would show hearts. But...

3 could show no spade losers and this kind of hand, except that it would be natural. But...

3NT could show this exact hand, except that it would simply show a hand that would have passed had partner bid 3NT the normal way (probably wrong-siding the contract). But...

You could bid something above 3NT to show something interesting in some way that would somehow not be the same bid had partner bid 3NT.

So there!
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Posted 2008-November-08, 14:52

This old fart, playing with another old fart, would have reached slam, so I guess old farts may know something, once in a while.
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