[rogerclee]

MPs, All White, Fourth Seat

♠AKxxx ♥void ♦JT9xxxx ♣x

(1NT) - P - (2♣) - ?

What's your plan?

[kenrexford]

This is tough. If the opponents have a heart fit, they may be in trouble. If they have a massive heart fit (9+), then spades are not working out that well for me. If they end up declaring 3NT, I want to bid 4♦, but I cannot do that effectively unless I bid spades first, and then partner thinks I'm equal in length. If they bid 4♥, I want the spade lead.

The problem with bidding 2♦ is that I don't have a rebid after 3NT.

I think I'd just decide that the opponents have hearts. So, 2♠ for me.

[pclayton]

2♦ and then spades up to the 4 level (although I'll pass 3N). I think this hand is just too good to sell out to 4♥, even though pard may be frothing.

Even though its MPs, getting a diamond lead only feels really wrong if diamonds are 7-2-2-2 around the table and pard has Kx. Since I've decided that I'm going to be doing a lot of bidding here, I'm not that worried about the lead problem.

Anyone play something to show a two-suiter here?

[cherdano]

kenrexford, on Nov 2 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

This is tough. If the opponents have a heart fit, they may be in trouble. If they have a massive heart fit (9+), then spades are not working out that well for me. If they end up declaring 3NT, I want to bid 4♦, but I cannot do that effectively unless I bid spades first, and then partner thinks I'm equal in length. If they bid 4♥, I want the spade lead.

The problem with bidding 2♦ is that I don't have a rebid after 3NT.

I think I'd just decide that the opponents have hearts. So, 2♠ for me.

Why does a massive heart fit mean spades don't work out for you? (Hint: a 9-card heart fit is possible without responder having 5 of them.)
Why do you want to bid over 3N? If they don't have a heart fit, I surely don't want to compete to the 4-level.

I would bid 2♦. On a lucky day I get raised.

[whereagles]

2♠ + diams up to 5.

[655321]

pclayton, on Nov 2 2008, 02:14 PM, said:

2♦ and then spades up to the 4 level (although I'll pass 3N). I think this hand is just too good to sell out to 4♥, even though pard may be frothing.

Me too.

[H_KARLUK]

Sorry, 3 questions :

My partner does not know how to intervene with a good hand?

Is it really the best minimum even if my partner opened and opps kept silence?

Still 40 HCP and 13 cards in each suit?

[P_Marlowe]

2D, followed by spade bids.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[pclayton]

H_KARLUK, on Nov 2 2008, 02:26 PM, said:

Sorry, 3 questions :

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My partner does not know how to intervene with a good hand?

Yes your partner knows to pass with a good (and balanced) hand.

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Is it really the best minimum even if my partner opened and opps kept silence?

Yes a 7-5 is a good minimum.

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Still 40 HCP and 13 cards in each suit?

Some deals take more tricks than others.

[H_KARLUK]

I feel myself better with "AKxxx ♥void ♦AJT9xxx ♣x"(LTC easy there)
Hmm, let me amend pls:)

I dislike to operate in a fog of uncertainty with that "AKxxx ♥void ♦JT9xxxx ♣x"deal.

IMO pass is fine; b/c such holdings wld wait "call of duty". For now my crystall ball tells me "do not test depth of water with yr feet".

15-17 in my LHO- say 8 in my RHO, uh oh..seems i only have chance to find 9 at my partner. So when they are minimum and we are maximum 23-17 life is hard for everybody

I scare to find a misfit and become a sandbag in a long day. Moreover i do not want to hear something like "hey p, did u check yr pass cards there?"

[han]

I like 2D followed by 4S.

[Edmunte1]

2♦+3♠. I'll sell out to 4♥ if i succeed to show my suits.

[wclass___]

I really dislike 2♦

Why noone even mentioned 3/4♦ ?
Basically with this hand i dount want to play spades(if partner doesn't have 4 spades ), but if partner doesnt have short ♦ i would like ♠ lead a lot..

2♠ +lead direct+ better chances to be raised + makes more difficult to reach 3N
4♦ seems that they will simply double and get +300,but i dount think it is so obvious in practise. Btw most of you suggested 2♦+3♠+ and then they will be in much better situation to chose.

Hate Me

[han]

Agree that 2D followed by 4S will make it easier for them, and I wouldn't bid so slowly if I had hearts in diamonds instead of spades and diamonds. But now that I have the mastersuit and a lot of playing strength in either suit, I'm just going to show my hand to make sure we get to the best strain.