[Gerben42]

Is the money that will NOT be spent on the war going to be spent on a 10 times bigger Huge Hadron Collider?

[mike777]

Gerben42, on Sep 12 2008, 02:35 AM, said:

Is the money that will NOT be spent on the war going to be spent on a 10 times bigger Huge Hadron Collider?

I do not know...

Does Germany spend ten times more on troops in Asia...or ....tens times more on Haldron?

Is Germany fighting/killing some...any war in Asia...or nooooooo




Germany spending money on science?..ten times more?


"10 times bigger"

[helene_t]

han, on Sep 11 2008, 10:02 PM, said:

Josh is probably wondering how we say this in Dutch:

Even if the monkey wears a golden ring,
it is and remains an ugly thing.

Something like "Al draagt de aap een gouden ring, hij blijft een lelijk ding" ?

Never heard it.

Wonder which "thing" is ugly. The monkey or the ring?

I cannot come up with something similar in Danish.

Btw Pinker in his "How the mind works" refers to an interesting experiment: Children were asked questions

Quote

Take a horse. Paint it white with black stribes. Is it still a horse or has it become a zebra?

The answer was that it is still a horse. But similar (I don't remember the examples) examples involving non-living objects elicited the opposite response. The conclusion was that people have an innate belief in the "essentiality" of biological classes, but not of non-biological classes.

[Trinidad]

helene_t, on Sep 12 2008, 04:22 AM, said:

han, on Sep 11 2008, 10:02 PM, said:

Josh is probably wondering how we say this in Dutch:

Even if the monkey wears a golden ring,
it is and remains an ugly thing.

Something like "Al draagt de aap een gouden ring, hij blijft een lelijk ding" ?

Never heard it.

Al draagt een aap een gouden ring, het is en blijft een lelijk ding.

I have heard it many times. The first time that I recall was when I read it in a boys' book (From the 'Kameleon' series) when I was 9 or 10. I wouldn't say it is an extremely common expression, but it pops up once or twice a year.

The difference between my experience and Helene's may be due to the fact that I read boys' books (the gender card). It could obviously also be that I remind people more often of monkeys than Helene does.

Rik

[Al_U_Card]

mike777, on Sep 11 2008, 09:58 PM, said:

Al_U_Card, on Sep 11 2008, 09:17 PM, said:

From our point of view, the Democrats are right wing and the Republicans are fascists.  That may be why our country on the map is pink....

./....spoken from someone who has brave boys and girls in a war...shooting war....far far away from home.......

From a country(Canada) who has brave brave young ones....fighting and being killed far from home.

At least your election should decide....send everyone home and spend more on other or send more to fight and spend more to fight.

Gee Mike

Sadly, we couldn't keep our legacy of "peace-keepers" intact. We avoided the profligate and murderous adventure in Iraq, only to have the toady Harper belly up to the Bush criminal enterprise and agree to kill innocents in a land that has known invasion and resistance for over a thousand years. Our presence is not only unnecessary and irrelevent, it is an abomination.

Using the "support our troops" bullshit is the bankrupt and immoral reasoning of the blindly ignorant or the criminally insane. Remove them from harm's way and use them as we must, as the protectors of our heritage and the defenders of our ideals as FREELY expressed by others that may request our assistance under the appropriate circumstances.

Jaded jingoist sentiment is so passé it is dead as a doornail in this world of instant information and effective scrutiny of those that would lie to us and cheat us of our legacy and our lives.

[hrothgar]

mike777, on Sep 12 2008, 05:58 AM, said:

Al_U_Card, on Sep 11 2008, 09:17 PM, said:

From our point of view, the Democrats are right wing and the Republicans are fascists.  That may be why our country on the map is pink....

./....spoken from someone who has brave boys and girls in a war...shooting war....far far away from home.......

From a country(Canada) who has brave brave young ones....fighting and being killed far from home.

At least your election should decide....send everyone home and spend more on other or send more to fight and spend more to fight.

I really can't figure out what point this post is trying to make.

Are you (Mike777) claiming that members of your family posted over seas in war?
Are you (Mike777) speaking for Americans as a whole?
Are you (Mike777) trying to speak for Al-U-Card ?

In all seriousness, your posting come across as if your manic depressive or bipolar or something.

About a third of the time, you make fairly rational posts

About a third of the time, you post pretty stupid stuff, but you're fairly coherent

The rest of the time you spew in an almost incomprehensible stream-of-consciousness style and can't figure out what the hell you're trying to say.

[han]

helene_t, on Sep 12 2008, 04:22 AM, said:

Something like "Al draagt de aap een gouden ring, hij blijft een lelijk ding" ?

Never heard it.

Al draagt de aap een gouden ring, het is en blijft een lelijk ding.

It's the monkey that's referred to as being ugly and what can I say, it's generally not a very nice thing to say (especially about people) so it's not a bad thing if you have never heard it.

[han]

You are being too generous Richard. Or maybe I missed the first third.

[Al_U_Card]

Stream of unconsciousness perhaps?

[matmat]

Al_U_Card, on Sep 12 2008, 11:03 AM, said:

Stream of unconsciousness perhaps?

stream? i thought it was more of a sputter...