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Bidding goes like this:
1♥ P 1NT P
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Hand is minimum (12-14/15) with 5♥-4♠-2-2, and 2/1 GF system, with forcing 1NT is played.
Please help! Thanks in advance
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Posted 2008-July-07, 16:17
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Posted 2008-July-07, 16:21
This is a pretty common problem hand. Pretty much everyone just bids 2♣. I'd bid 2♥ only if my hearts were very, very good.
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Posted 2008-July-07, 17:41
Bid 2C. Responder does not have 4 spades, and if he has 2 hearts he'll go back to hearts. If he has 6 diamonds he'll bid 2D. If he has 5 clubs 2C will be as good as any place. He'll be be exactly 3-1-5-4 once in a blue moon, and you'll wish you could've passed 1NT. Don't sweat it. Can't recall ever getting 4-5-2-2 opposite 3-1-5-4.
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Posted 2008-July-07, 17:42
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Open 2D
Don't listen to him! Plug your ears and avert your gaze... this way, madness lies!
Next thing we see will be Justin pimping for Gerber!
Seriously, Flannery wsa invented precisely for this hand type. As an ex-flannerite of many years experience, I can tell you you don't need it. Rebid 2♣ (and make sure that you discuss this with your partners if possible)
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Posted 2008-July-07, 18:03
My regular partner and I open 1NT more often than not with this pattern and 15-16 HCP. I can't say "it works great!", but I doubt anyone can claim that about the 2-card 2C rebid either.
Mind you, we do play 1M-1NT as semi-forcing and that 2m rebid almost always delivers a 4-card suit, so that probably has something to do with why I find the 2-card 2C rebid so hard to stomach.
Opening 1NT is definitely obscure. Agree that 2C is the "mainstream expert bid" with these hands.
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Mind you, we do play 1M-1NT as semi-forcing and that 2m rebid almost always delivers a 4-card suit, so that probably has something to do with why I find the 2-card 2C rebid so hard to stomach.
Opening 1NT is definitely obscure. Agree that 2C is the "mainstream expert bid" with these hands.
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Posted 2008-July-07, 18:05
mikeh, on Jul 7 2008, 06:42 PM, said:
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Open 2D
Don't listen to him! Plug your ears and avert your gaze... this way, madness lies!
Next thing we see will be Justin pimping for Gerber!
Seriously, Flannery wsa invented precisely for this hand type. As an ex-flannerite of many years experience, I can tell you you don't need it. Rebid 2♣ (and make sure that you discuss this with your partners if possible)
I play gerber over first AND last NT!
Anyways more seriously rebid 2C as a default, I have rebid 2H once before with KQJTx and xx clubs, not sure how I feel about that.
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Posted 2008-July-07, 21:05
In the spingold my partner rebid 2♦ on this shape with AQ xx in the minors. The opponents misdefended 2♥ to let him make, called the director who said there was nothing he could do, and were not amused. I was just laughing because I thought it was such a terrible bid.
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Posted 2008-July-07, 21:06
Heck -- I bid 2♣ when I have 4531 shape, so a doubleton is overkill. LOL
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Posted 2008-July-08, 08:07
Agree that 2C is the 'mainstream' bid. It allows the maximum space for the responder.
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Posted 2008-July-08, 11:35
We reverse 1NT and 1♠ wich solves it (Except when you have 16!).
Lacking that I think the standard is a 2♣ rebid.
Lacking that I think the standard is a 2♣ rebid.
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