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Open Interstate Teams Selection pt 3 Bidding decision

Poll: What do you bid? (23 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid?

  1. a) 3NT. Slam is remote (21 votes [91.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.30%

  2. b) 4[DI] (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. c) 5[DI] (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  4. d) 4NT (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  5. e) Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   effervesce 

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Posted 2008-April-16, 18:44

You hold
Scoring: IMP
as west. Partner opens 1, 11-15, 5+ suit. You bid 1NT, 5-12, forcing. Partner bids 3.

Your call?
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Posted 2008-April-16, 18:48

does 3d show max with 4+ diamonds or does it necessarily show extra shape? I think I'll try 3nt here.
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Posted 2008-April-16, 18:50

3NT seems totally clear; 5 seems far away, pass is ridiculous.
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Posted 2008-April-16, 18:52

In a precision setting, 3 can't be a phony JS nor should it be forcing. Our cards aren't working that well, so I will bid 3N.
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Posted 2008-April-16, 18:54

matmat, on Apr 16 2008, 07:48 PM, said:

does 3d show max with 4+ diamonds or does it necessarily show extra shape? I think I'll try 3nt here.

Playing precision of course it shows extra shape. Any maximum without much shape would only bid 2.
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Posted 2008-April-16, 18:58

3N, hard to tell how well our cards are working for slam
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Posted 2008-April-16, 21:13

3NT
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Posted 2008-April-16, 21:33

Why 3NT? Surely 5 is at least as good as 3NT. Should a 4 bid be forcing? (I think not, given the 1NT, but partner disagrees). Besides, slam looks very possible....
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Posted 2008-April-16, 21:40

Whereas slam may be possible, it seems improbable, and there is not enough space to explore this possibility. I seem to have no options below 3NT to explore a diamond slam, and I am not comfortable that the four-level is safe. Further, I'm not sure how I get sufficient answers below 4NT even if I try to explore slam.
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Posted 2008-April-16, 22:21

Why would I be thinking slam? 27 at most, probably 8 card fit, singleton in partner's first suit, lots of values in his short suit....what am I missing, 3NT wtp?
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Posted 2008-April-17, 00:12

agree with jdonn
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Posted 2008-April-17, 19:16

I took the low road, and we ended up in 5. The full hand:
Scoring: IMP

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Posted 2008-April-18, 00:18

I think the auction should go 1-1nt-3-3nt-4 and then you have better chances to explore for the 6. Not that 6 is ice cold just looking single dummy. But yes that is an awkward hand for many big club systems.
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Posted 2008-April-18, 22:48

Angling towards 6 is just resulting. Of course, without seeing the companion hand, I could tell that this hand made it here only because 6 made in this one instance.
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