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MP decision 6-4 in the minors

Poll: what do you bid? (34 member(s) have cast votes)

what do you bid?

  1. 2 clubs (26 votes [76.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.47%

  2. 3 clubs (1 votes [2.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.94%

  3. 3 diamonds (4 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  4. 3NT (3 votes [8.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.82%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2008-April-12, 15:41

10
A3
AKQ632
K763

South dealer all vul

S - N
1-1
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Posted 2008-April-12, 15:55

2 seems clear to me. I would not actually be surprised if 1NT was the winning action, which I might do if you made the hand worse (but kept AKQxxx).
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Posted 2008-April-12, 16:07

1NT? That's quite the imagination....

but 2 it is, wtp?
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Posted 2008-April-12, 16:34

2C

Seems clear. Is the field really bidding 1NT? If so, I reckon I have the odds with me.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 16:49

Halo, on Apr 12 2008, 03:34 PM, said:

Is the field really bidding 1NT?

I would not expect any field to look at 6-4 and think "hmm, 1NT." That said, this hand is way too good to bid 1NT anyway, even if you were that sick (I am not).
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Posted 2008-April-12, 17:06

2C.

1N? Wow, what are they teaching kids these days? B)
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Posted 2008-April-12, 21:27

2.

If I were using an unbalanced diamond opening, where a 1 opening promised a stiff, and a 1NT rebid showed that the stiff was in Responder's major, I'd rebid 2.

Rebidding 1NT?!? LOL
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Posted 2008-April-13, 01:36

2.

I guess the reason this is here is pard passed 2 and 3NT would have made vs a 3 rebid :)
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Posted 2008-April-13, 02:09

rebidding 2 is only a slight problem is we open 1 on 45 hands thus making partner more likely to pass. but I'd bid 2 even so.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 02:23

This is a clear 2 rebid. Nothing else make sense to me. 1NT is ridiculous, and we're not strong enoug for 3 or 3. Strongly prefer 2 showing 9+ cards in two suits over 2 showing 6+ cards (maybe even only 5+) in one suit.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 04:54

2

In SEF this has 18 points, so it is the upper limit of a 2 Club bid. The nice points (no unprotected Quacks) makes it better, the stiff in pds hand weaker.
So I have sympathy for 3 CLub as a second choice to the normal 2 Club bid.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 07:30

2C

Bidding is not a perfect science and not every making game is biddable.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 08:20

Winstonm, on Apr 13 2008, 01:30 PM, said:

Bidding is not a perfect science and not every making game is biddable.

Indeed. A lot of people seem to forget that. Sometimes you have to play the odds instead of trying for impossible perfection.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 08:51

2NT forcing wtp.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-April-13, 09:00

skaeran, on Apr 13 2008, 08:23 AM, said:

and we're not strong enoug for 3 or 3.

I think we are fairly strong enough for a 3 rebid :P.

Anyway, everyone agreed on first decision.

Now the auction goes on.

1-1
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3-3
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Posted 2008-April-13, 09:20

If partner held some kind of supporting heart cards, it would be imperative for him to bid 3N instead of 3S. 3S must be a suggested strain, then, as he didn't bid 4D.
Maybe he has something like: KQJxxx, xxx, Jxx, A

I am going to bid 4S, allowing the option of playing there or in 5D. With only Ax, in hearts, 3N surely cannot be right.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 09:39

I think partner is cue-bidding his cheapest ace and claiming no clear heart stop with 3. I'm bidding key card, whatever that is in your methods, and, if we have all the key cards, asking partner to bid 7 with 3rd round control of clubs. If partner has one key card, I'm stopping at 5.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 10:32

3NT.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 10:46

I bid 4 over 3, forcing (3 was game forcing to me). I'm very suit oriented, so if we are supposed to be in 3NT opposite a stiff spade and only the ace in hearts I'm not sure why partner didn't bid it. But I don't want to rush to keycard since there might be a problem in clubs.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 12:08

jdonn, on Apr 13 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

I bid 4 over 3, forcing (3 was game forcing to me). I'm very suit oriented, so if we are supposed to be in 3NT opposite a stiff spade and only the ace in hearts I'm not sure why partner didn't bid it. But I don't want to rush to keycard since there might be a problem in clubs.

JDonn,

But to go back to the earlier bidding, partner only bid 3 diamonds, which I take as invitational only in this sequence - surely 3H now is forcing, but only to 3N and NOT to 5D, don't you think?

I'm not certain partner would be clear that 4D is meant as forcing here.
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