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#1 User is offline   catch22 

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Posted 2008-April-13, 05:11

Scoring: IMP


What do you open what is your general plan?

Note. If you open 1D and partner responds a major, you have methods available to show a GF with 3M-6D.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 06:52

If I have methods, 2 seems OK. The methods I would need, however, would allow me to show six diamonds and four of a major. For example, if 2...3M showed 6/4M, I could instead bid 3 to deny a four-card major and allow partner thereby to show five-card majors.

Without methods, 1.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 08:19

I'll make whatever strong opening your system has.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 08:56

looks ike a 2 club opening, I will bid 2NT next.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 10:44

I think its close. I have 9 tricks, yes, but they are slow in hearts, I would like to have more control type A or K.

I would open 2, only for the reason that there is no convinient GF revid after 1. If I can show 6m GF hand, that I open 1
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Posted 2008-April-14, 10:58

dcvetkov, on Apr 14 2008, 11:44 AM, said:

I would open 2, only for the reason that there is no convinient GF revid after 1.


catch22, on Apr 13 2008, 06:11 AM, said:

Note.  If you open 1D and partner responds a major, you have methods available to show a GF with 3M-6D.

Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 11:16

I would open 2, if partner has nothing, maybe he has enough so that 3N makes...
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Posted 2008-April-14, 14:43

catch22, on Apr 13 2008, 06:11 AM, said:

Dealer: South
Vul: None
Scoring: IMP
AK3
QJT
AKQJT6
Q
 


What do you open what is your general plan?

Note.  If you open 1D and partner responds a major, you have methods available to show a GF with 3M-6D.

1d


see footnote.

Yes I think 2c opener is very close.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 16:08

1.

To me, this hand is not strong enough for a 2 opening bid, especially with diamonds as the long suit.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 18:01

kenrexford, on Apr 14 2008, 12:52 AM, said:

If I have methods, 2 seems OK.  The methods I would need, however, would allow me to show six diamonds and four of a major.  For example, if 2...3M showed 6/4M, I could instead bid 3 to deny a four-card major and allow partner thereby to show five-card majors.

Without methods, 1.

Yes I play those methods too.

So 2 is ok. I don't mind 1 on this hand though. You pays your money and you take your pick.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 19:23

I hate to be a Walrus here, but that hand has 22 HCP. That means on average partner will have 6; there's a very good chance this gets passed out in 1 when all I need is a trick from partner (We don't bid constructively without 4 HCP as a responder despite the advocations of "respond with anything" sometimes found on this forum).

I am bidding 2, and rebidding 3 next, then playing in partner's 5 card major or in 3NT, or slam, or whatever's right, having gotten this hand off my chest.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 19:44

I think I'll go with 2. Sometimes people avoid this with diamonds, but the nice thing is with this exact shape we will never have any rebid problems after 2.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 19:50

2 for me.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 20:23

jdonn, on Apr 14 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

I think I'll go with 2. Sometimes people avoid this with diamonds, but the nice thing is with this exact shape we will never have any rebid problems after 2.

I'm not so sure that the problem is rebids after 2, but what next after 3. That said, I'm glad to have methods to help.
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Posted 2008-April-15, 14:18

I would open this 1, especially if I can later GF and show 3M-6.

I have no big problem with 2 though. But prefer 1.
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Posted 2008-April-15, 20:43

I would open 1D.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-April-15, 23:17

1 for me t00.
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Posted 2008-April-15, 23:28

If you don't open this one 1, you probably shouldn't be playing the gadget for showing a GF 6-3 hand. Not having this gadget, I would open this hand 2.
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