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Name your game 4-4 fit or not?

#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2008-April-08, 01:09

Scoring: MP


1♣ - 1♥
1♠* - ?

* natural, unbalanced

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Posted 2008-April-08, 01:35

3♠ Show my support and the value of the hand.
I think 4♠ would be too much opposite a minimum hand.
Partner will know what to do now.
Maybe the heart suit gives us a slam though.....
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Posted 2008-April-08, 02:09

3♦ as splinter and then we'll see where to play. I have agreed to cuebid shortness in partners suit so if I hear ♥ cue from partner, I atleast know that we have to play in spades.
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Posted 2008-April-08, 02:19

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3♦ as splinter and then we'll see where to play. I have agreed to cuebid shortness in partners suit so if I hear ♥ cue from partner, I atleast know that we have to play in spades.


Doesn't a jump in the 4th suit show 5 - 5 in the reds?
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Posted 2008-April-08, 02:30

4♠
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Posted 2008-April-08, 03:12

I don't like 4♠. If dummy gets tapped at trick 2, all those hearts become worthless.

4♥ now.
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Posted 2008-April-08, 03:14



Now you see both hands. Where do you want to be at MP? (and where at IMPs?)

It was a hand from a BBO team match (Nuremberg vs Stuttgart) but ♥ were 2 - 2 and ♠ 3 - 2 with the Q onside so on a non-♦ lead you even make 7, but that wasn't the point...
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Posted 2008-April-08, 03:37

4♥ at imps
4♠ otherwise
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Posted 2008-April-08, 03:46

4♥ looks obvious
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Posted 2008-April-08, 04:58

Pretty sure I'd end up in 4H.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-April-08, 05:01

Care to tell me how, Han? Previous posters suggested 3♠, 4♠, etc.
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Posted 2008-April-08, 05:14

I cannot imagine raising spades with this hand, maybe I don't play enough matchpoints.

I can see two possible bids: 4H and 2D (artificial GF). At the table I'd probably bid 4H.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-April-08, 05:46

Gerben42, on Apr 8 2008, 02:09 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

1♣ - 1♥
1♠* - ?
* natural, unbalanced
What is your strategy?

IMO 4♥ should systemically paint a clear picture of good ♥ and a ♠ fit
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Posted 2008-April-08, 08:11

I would have bid 4♥ on the first round.

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Posted 2008-April-08, 09:06

3♥ at MPs, 4♥ at IMPs.

We have a 4-4 fit? Didn't notice.
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Posted 2008-April-08, 09:17

pclayton, on Apr 8 2008, 04:06 PM, said:

3♥ at MPs, 4♥ at IMPs.

We have a 4-4 fit? Didn't notice.

Yes, I do not see the ♠ fit... :huh:

4♥
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Posted 2008-April-09, 15:56

agree with phil, I won't play in spades at any form of scoring.
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Posted 2008-April-09, 16:44

whereagles, on Apr 8 2008, 03:12 AM, said:

I don't like 4♠. If dummy gets tapped at trick 2, all those hearts become worthless.

4♥ now.

Good observation and the same for me 4♥
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Posted 2008-April-10, 11:21

This really looks like a 4♥ bid to me, now or on the previous round.
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Posted 2008-April-10, 14:04

nige1, on Apr 8 2008, 06:46 AM, said:

Gerben42, on Apr 8 2008, 02:09 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

1♣ - 1♥
1♠* - ?
* natural, unbalanced
What is your strategy?

IMO 4♥ should systemically paint a clear picture of good ♥ and a ♠ fit

You are kidding, right?

Suppose you hold:

x
KQJTxxxx
Kx
Kx

What do you suggest bidding over 1♠?

Would you really have bid something other than 1♥ at your first turn to bid?
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