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Crockfords II

Poll: What do you lead? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you lead?

  1. Spade (14 votes [70.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.00%

  2. Heart (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Diamond (3 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  4. Club (3 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

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#1 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

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Posted 2008-March-31, 03:09

The Crockfords Cup is the English teams championship (the Gold Cup is the British championship). There are 5 KO rounds then an 8-team final. These hands come from the last KO round before the final.

48 board KO, imps, teams of four.

Scoring: IMP

RHO deals
P P 1 1
2 4 6 P
P P


2 was fit, showing hearts and clubs
1 was in a 5-card major, 15-17 NT, better minor context
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Posted 2008-March-31, 03:20

I would for sure try a spade. We need 2 tricks and it's hard to construct themes where the DA is a necessary lead. Maybe if we have a club trick and a diamond trick, and the diamond goes away on the spades if we don't cash it. That is very specific though and ignores that there's a good chance of a diamond void.

It's easy to construct layouts where a spade is the winning lead, like if we have 2 spade tricks or 1 spade + 1 round suit trick and our spade needs to be established.
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Posted 2008-March-31, 04:02

More often then not your questions are too hard for me, so I wonder about this one. :)
I can understand a high diamond lead if someone is tired or bored or lazy, but else a spade stands out a mile, doesn´t it?

We surely don´t have two diamonds to cash. And if we have one and a trick in heart or club, it is still time to cash it later.

But maybe we have to cash two spade tricks. Then it is now or maybe never.
And if we have a spade to develop, maybe now is the best chance to do so.
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Posted 2008-March-31, 06:25

. I like Justin's reasoning.
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Posted 2008-March-31, 07:01

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Posted 2008-March-31, 08:30

I lead a spade, but I am known to have presented declarers with the contract before ;)

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Posted 2008-March-31, 09:01

I am having real trouble constructing the opps' hands, unless partner holds 5 spades and 6 diamonds, or chose a weird 1 level overcall with 7 diamonds.

Anyway, I have decided that maybe lho is 4=4=0=5 and rho is 2=5=2=4 (and partner 5=1=6=1) and on this layout only a spade can be correct.

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Posted 2008-March-31, 09:08

Pretty good guess at the layout, mike (and everyone else who led a spade)



This lead problem didn't come up at the table, because your partner took out insurance over 6H and bid 6S, so you went for 500 in 7Dx instead. This led to a discussion about what South would have led against 6H.
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Posted 2008-March-31, 11:15

I had wondered about that. It struck me that North has a very, very tough decision. On the one hand, he can be morally sure that he is going plus IF partner leadsa spade. OTOH, he can be morally sure that he has a cheap save at either 6 or 7...indeed, if his LHO is 1=5=2=5 we are 3=3=5=2, he has to save.

I really like pass by north, as it shows tremendous respect for partner... but the chances of 6 simply being unbeatable seem to make it too risky.
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Posted 2008-April-02, 22:13

FrancesHinden, on Mar 31 2008, 04:09 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

RHO deals
P P 1 1
2 4 6 P
P P
2 was fit, showing hearts and clubs
1 was in a 5-card major, 15-17 NT, better minor context

IMO = 10, A = 9, = 7.
-1430? :) Sorry again partner! :( Yes I must attend JLall's masterclass on leads :) :(
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