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Another typical problem after 3S preempt

Poll: What do you bid? (40 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid?

  1. Pass (2 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  2. Dbl (27 votes [67.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 67.50%

  3. 3NT (4 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  4. 4D (natural) (6 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  5. Something else (please explain) (1 votes [2.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

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Posted 2007-December-27, 02:21

Playing a tournament (matchpoints!) RHO opens 3♠ in first seat.

You hold:
Scoring: MP


What do you bid?
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Posted 2007-December-27, 02:53

classic ELC dbl.
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Posted 2007-December-27, 03:32

classic ELC wich I don't play, so 4♦
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Posted 2007-December-27, 09:00

3NT, running to 4♦ if doubled.
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Posted 2007-December-27, 09:53

Apollo81, on Dec 27 2007, 06:00 PM, said:

3NT, running to 4♦ if doubled.

I gave consideration to two calls:

1. 3NT
2. Pass

At the table, I suspect that I would bid 3N
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Posted 2007-December-27, 10:26

I think I would double to leave as many options as possible open. If partner bids clubs I'll bid diamonds. I don't play ELC, I'm simply overbidding if that happens. 3NT removes 3♠X and 4♥ (essentially) from consideration, and I think pass is simply wacko.
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Posted 2007-December-27, 12:44

jdonn, on Dec 27 2007, 11:26 AM, said:

I think I would double to leave as many options as possible open. If partner bids clubs I'll bid diamonds. I don't play ELC, I'm simply overbidding if that happens. 3NT removes 3♠X and 4♥ (essentially) from consideration, and I think pass is simply wacko.

Agreed.
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Posted 2007-December-28, 12:19

I don´t know what wacko is, but whatever it is, I use the wacko bid of pass.
I have a nice shape and 14 hcps. But how much do I need for a nice 3 NT?
Maybe something like Qx, xxx,Axx,Akxxx in pds hand? But wait, he won´t pass with this, will he? So I pass now. Of course I will miss some nice games opposite xx, KJxx,Ax,xxxxx, but so is life.

I don´t play elc either, so X followed by 4 Diamond shows this shape but unluckily more playing strength. This would be nice with Kx, AQxx,AKQxxx,x.
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Posted 2007-December-28, 12:56

Codo, on Dec 28 2007, 01:19 PM, said:

I don´t know what wacko is, but whatever it is, I use the wacko bid of pass.
I have a nice shape and 14 hcps. But how much do I need for a nice 3 NT?
Maybe something like Qx, xxx,Axx,Akxxx in pds hand? But wait, he won´t pass with this, will he?

You need the K of clubs less. In fact you might need the AK of clubs less. xx xxx Axx JTxxx is a finesse (that I admit probably won't work) for 3NT. I know I didn't bid 3NT. But it will almost always be the case that something is better than passing.

By the way,

Wacko - see wacky
Wacky -
Eccentric or irrational: a wacky person.
Crazy; silly: a wacky outfit.
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Posted 2008-January-03, 09:19

DBL
on 4♣ i overbid with 4♦, life is sometimes tough.
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Posted 2008-January-03, 09:34

mikeh, on Dec 27 2007, 07:44 PM, said:

jdonn, on Dec 27 2007, 11:26 AM, said:

I think I would double to leave as many options as possible open. If partner bids clubs I'll bid diamonds. I don't play ELC, I'm simply overbidding if that happens. 3NT removes 3♠X and 4♥ (essentially) from consideration, and I think pass is simply wacko.

Agreed.

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Posted 2008-January-03, 11:20

jdonn, on Dec 27 2007, 05:26 PM, said:

I think I would double to leave as many options as possible open. If partner bids clubs I'll bid diamonds. I don't play ELC, I'm simply overbidding if that happens. 3NT removes 3♠X and 4♥ (essentially) from consideration, and I think pass is simply wacko.

Me too.

I don't play ELC either but flexibility after a high-level double is part of the game nowadays.

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