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#1 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2007-August-24, 19:24

IMPs, none, partner deals.

10xx
AKxxx
Ax
xxx

1D - 1H
2C - ??
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-24, 19:26

2d

1d can be real junk in my reg partnerships.
Yes this is a max and the opp have been silent.
Perhaps they will bid now?
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Posted 2007-August-24, 19:30

Agree with 2D but freely admit I am well over a maximum for this bid, the opps are not going to bid, and we may miss a game. This looks like a hand for pessimism not optimism :)
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Posted 2007-August-24, 20:52

2.

Hoping partner can find another bid.

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Posted 2007-August-25, 01:23

2, wtp? Sometimes you've got a maximum.
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Posted 2007-August-25, 03:42

Unless the same hand has come up twice in different places, I think your spades are 9xx and clubs 10xx. And it's matchpoints.

I drove game on the hand, we played in the winning spot. But the circumstances are slightly artificial.
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Posted 2007-August-25, 10:23

skaeran, on Aug 25 2007, 02:23 AM, said:

2, wtp? Sometimes you've got a maximum.

Well it's not exactly a wtp, 2 may well be the best solution given the alternatives but this is clearly more than a maximum.
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Posted 2007-August-25, 11:32

I would bid 2NT
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Posted 2007-August-25, 12:29

2. I'm not that enamored with this hand. I have a max, but pard need some specific maximums to make 3N or 5m.
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Posted 2007-August-25, 12:40

FrancesHinden, on Aug 25 2007, 04:42 AM, said:

Unless the same hand has come up twice in different places, I think your spades are 9xx and clubs 10xx. And it's matchpoints.

I drove game on the hand, we played in the winning spot. But the circumstances are slightly artificial.

I got the idea of the hand from Challenge the Champs, I didn't remember the spots, form of scoring and vulnerabilities.

Interesting that you drove to game while the majority here makes a simple 2D call. Indeed, there is no attractive invitational bid so you either have to go high or low.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-26, 05:02

jdonn, on Aug 25 2007, 06:23 PM, said:

skaeran, on Aug 25 2007, 02:23 AM, said:

2, wtp? Sometimes you've got a maximum.

Well it's not exactly a wtp, 2 may well be the best solution given the alternatives but this is clearly more than a maximum.

That might be true. But to me this is still an automatic 2. There's no alternative bid IMO, so I'd bid 2 without a second thought.
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Posted 2007-August-27, 01:27

I share the view that this is no wtp 2 even if most my heros do.
In my regular partnerships, I normally play weak jumps, so I can rebid 2 here to show 5+ hearts and 8-11 HCPs. I normally have 6 Hearts for this bid, but it is still a much better describtion then 2 .
My second choice would be 2 if this is not GF.

And just if all these bids are not avaiable, I would try 2ond
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Posted 2007-August-27, 02:12

In one partnership 2 suggests extras as we rebid (off-shape) 1NT with most minimums, so I would bid 2, which I would also do if 2 is not a GF.

With more "normal" agreements, I would bid 2.
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Posted 2007-August-27, 03:44

2S, FSF.

That are the hands, why you play FSF
as inv.+
If you play FSF as GF, ... abstain :o, but
more serious, I think I would bid 2NT.

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Posted 2007-August-27, 04:07

Hmm. I am going to bid 3D. I am one D card short in support, but at least I have the A, and I do have 5 controls!
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Posted 2007-August-27, 06:07

I have an invitational hand. I would rather lie about distribution than strength.

So I like 3D and 2N better than 2D or 2H.
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Posted 2007-August-27, 06:31

I'll make a slight overbid and game-force with 2.

A more conservative bid would be 3, waiting for pard to bid 3 on 3 cards if he accepts this invite.
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Posted 2007-August-27, 11:04

whereagles, on Aug 27 2007, 02:31 PM, said:

A more conservative bid would be 3, waiting for pard to bid 3 on 3 cards if he accepts this invite.

With that hand partner would rebid 2 over my 2 and I'd raise to game.
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