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#1 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2007-August-19, 18:38

Team game, none vul.

Ax
KJ10xx
AKx
9xx

(3S) - 3NT - (p) to you.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-19, 18:46

Yes. This is a nice hand. I'm going to be content with a small slam here and in case partner's bid was based on tricks, I'm going to bid 5NT as a choice of slams.

Edit: I actually have some methods here, but I'm assuming no such agreements. My regular partner and I would play:

4♣ Why did you bid 3NT?
--4♦/♥/♠ Because I have long running ♥/♣/♦ and a stopper
--4NT Because I have a big balanced hand
--5X Because I have a very big hand with this 5 card suit (cue = monster)
--5NT Because I have a very big hand with no 5 card suit
4♦/♥/♠ Showing long ♥/♣/♦
4NT Blackwood (Invites ask with 4♣)
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Posted 2007-August-19, 19:17

Agree 5NT
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Posted 2007-August-19, 19:44

with no methods I would bid 6N. With methods I would transfer to hearts and bid 5N (choice).
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Posted 2007-August-20, 03:14

4NT is enough for me.
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Posted 2007-August-20, 06:45

6NT.

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Posted 2007-August-20, 09:20

Jlall, on Aug 19 2007, 08:44 PM, said:

with no methods I would bid 6N. With methods I would transfer to hearts and bid 5N (choice).

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Posted 2007-August-20, 09:32

Echognome, on Aug 20 2007, 03:46 AM, said:

Yes. This is a nice hand. I'm going to be content with a small slam here and in case partner's bid was based on tricks, I'm going to bid 5NT as a choice of slams.

Edit: I actually have some methods here, but I'm assuming no such agreements. My regular partner and I would play:

4♣ Why did you bid 3NT?
--4♦/♥/♠ Because I have long running ♥/♣/♦ and a stopper
--4NT Because I have a big balanced hand
--5X Because I have a very big hand with this 5 card suit (cue = monster)
--5NT Because I have a very big hand with no 5 card suit
4♦/♥/♠ Showing long ♥/♣/♦
4NT Blackwood (Invites ask with 4♣)

Interesting method. I think that I like it.

Out of curiousity, what does a step response over 4X show? For example, lets assume that we have the following auction

(3♠) - 3N - (P) - 4♣
(P) - 4♥ - (P) - 4♠

Where 4♣ shows a running club suit and a Spade stopper...

Does 4♠ ask for the length of the club suit or the type of Spade control or what?
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Posted 2007-August-20, 09:36

I would transfer and bid 4NT, should be quant, choice of games,... "do something smart"
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Posted 2007-August-20, 09:51

hrothgar, on Aug 20 2007, 07:32 AM, said:

Interesting method. I think that I like it.

Out of curiousity, what does a step response over 4X show? For example, lets assume that we have the following auction

(3♠) - 3N - (P) - 4♣
(P) - 4♥ - (P) - 4♠

Where 4♣ shows a running club suit and a Spade stopper...

Does 4♠ ask for the length of the club suit or the type of Spade control or what?

Thanks. To be honest, I'm not really sure. These auctions are uncommon, but of course, do happen from time to time. We found that we were ahead of the game just to have some methods and didn't worry much more about it.
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Posted 2007-August-20, 10:03

I like to play with my regular partners over all 2N and 3N overcalls that the following are transfers:

(3♣) - 3N..:

4♣ = diamonds. Ranges from a weak hand with many diamonds to a hand that is making a slam try.

4♦ = hearts

4♥ = spades

4♠ = transfer to the cue. In this case, its Stayman with a very good hand.

On this particular hand I would transfer to hearts and try 5N. I think the hand is just too good for transfer / 4N. Partner rates to have better than a bare 15 count here.
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Posted 2007-August-20, 10:07

Echognome, on Aug 19 2007, 04:46 PM, said:

Yes. This is a nice hand. I'm going to be content with a small slam here and in case partner's bid was based on tricks, I'm going to bid 5NT as a choice of slams.

Edit: I actually have some methods here, but I'm assuming no such agreements. My regular partner and I would play:

4♣ Why did you bid 3NT?
--4♦/♥/♠ Because I have long running ♥/♣/♦ and a stopper
--4NT Because I have a big balanced hand
--5X Because I have a very big hand with this 5 card suit (cue = monster)
--5NT Because I have a very big hand with no 5 card suit
4♦/♥/♠ Showing long ♥/♣/♦
4NT Blackwood (Invites ask with 4♣)

I know of a similar method:

4♣ asks:

4♦ = I have a minimum range NT overcall (16-18)
4♥ = I have a maximum NT overcall (19-21)
4♠ = I have a NT overcall based on a minimum hand, but a source of tricks: Kx, Ax, AKQxxx, xxx
4N = I have a maximum hand with a source of tricks: Kx, Ax, AKQxxxx, Kx
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Posted 2007-August-20, 11:22

mikeh, on Aug 20 2007, 05:20 PM, said:

Jlall, on Aug 19 2007, 08:44 PM, said:

with no methods I would bid 6N. With methods I would transfer to hearts and bid 5N (choice).

ditto

Count me in too.
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