[jikl]

I have a further question, when picking, is World1 being picked first? And then World2?

As to venue, let's pretend there is a perfect venue that aids the quicks early, then favours the spinners towards the end. Id doesn't have to be a real venue.

Sean

[jikl]

As an aside, even though it was against Bangladesh, what did everyone think of Jason Gillespie's double hundred?

Sean

[Walddk]

jikl, on May 31 2006, 11:22 AM, said:

I have a further question, when picking, is World1 being picked first? And then World2?

As to venue, let's pretend there is a perfect venue that aids the quicks early, then favours the spinners towards the end. Id doesn't have to be a real venue.

Sean

World1 will be selected first. I am having a hard time as we speak. OK then, 2 openers and an obvious 3. Middle order = 4, 5, 6. Wicket-keeper is 7, and finally 3 seamers and 1 spinner.

Lord's it is. It's close to a sell-out already.

Regarding Dizzy: great knock indeed, but it could only happen against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

Roland

P.S. Jeffrey and I will be umpiring (Alan 3rd umpire), Fred is the match referee, Frances is World 1's physio, Paul belongs to World2, and Sean will bring drinks on to the field. The rest will be commentating on TV

[jikl]

World XI 1 is not following your formula, but I will explain...

Matthew Hayden
Rahul Dravid
Jacques Kallis
Ricky Ponting
Inzamam ul-Haq
Brian Lara
Andrew Flintoff
Adam Gilchrist
Shane Warne
Glenn McGrath
Muttiah Muralitharan

12th man: Andrew Symonds for fielding duties.

I feel with Flintoff and Kallis, I can take 2 spinners in.

Sean

(thinking about the 2nd team)

[mr1303]

Well, I'll assume a fairly good batting track, a bit in it for the seamers, but it'll likely start to turn towards the end of the match.

In which case:

Team 1:

Marcus Trescothick
Graeme Smith
Herschelle Gibbs
Ricky Ponting
Kevin Peterson
Andrew Flintoff
Adam Gilchrist (w)
Shane Warne ©
Shoaib Akhtar
Brett Lee
Anil Kumble

Team 2:

Verinder Sehwag
Andrew Strauss
Brian Lara
Sachin Tendulkar
Rahul Dravid
Inzamann-ul-haq ©
Kumara Sangakarra (w)
Shaun Pollock
Matthew Hoggard
Makhaya Ntini
Muttiah Muralitharan

[Walddk]

World XI 1:
Stephen Fleming
Matthew Hayden
Ricky Ponting C
Rahul Dravid
Kevin Pietersen
Andrew Flintoff
Adam Gilchrist W
Shane Warne
Brett Lee
Shoaib Ahktar
Glenn McGrath

World XI 2:
Sachin Tendulkar
Marcus Trescothick
Jacques Kallis
Brian Lara
Inzamam-ul-Haq C
Andrew Symonds
Kumara Sangakkara W
Shaun Pollock
Shane Bond
Makhaya Ntini
Muttiah Muralitharan

[jikl]

World X1 2:

Virender Sehwag
Graeme Smith
Younis Khan
Sachin Tendulkar
Mike Hussey
Damien Martyn
Kumara Sangakkara
Brett Lee
Shane Bond
Makhaya Ntini
Stuart Macgill

12th man: Herschelle Gibbs

Sean

[FrancesHinden]

I shall discuss tonight with the other half of the selection committee.

But I shall be assuming (as Roland said) that Vaughan is back to match fitness and back in practice, just as everyone except Roland is assuming about Tendulkar. I definitely want him as one of my captains.

[Walddk]

FrancesHinden, on May 31 2006, 12:18 PM, said:

But I shall be assuming (as Roland said) that Vaughan is back to match fitness and back in practice, just as everyone except Roland is assuming about Tendulkar. I definitely want him as one of my captains.

My bad; of course a fit Tendulkar should be in one of the teams. Corrected above.

Roland

[jikl]

One thing I must say, any of the teams we have so far proposed, be they 1st or 2nd 11 teams would be damn good.

Sean

[paulg]

World XI 1

Marcus Trescothick
Matthew Hayden
Ricky Ponting ©
Rahul Dravid
Kevin Pietersen
Andrew Flintoff
Adam Gilchrist (w)
Shane Warne
Makhaya Ntini
Glenn McGrath
Matthew Hoggard


World XI 2

Steven Fleming ©
Andrew Strauss
Brian Lara
Sachin Tendulkar
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Kumara Sangakkara (w)
Irfan Pathan
Brett Lee
Chaminda Vass
Shoaib Ahktah
Muttiah Muralidaran

I'm frustrated that I cannot get Mike Hussey into the game, but perhaps Tendulkar will not recover in time.

Paul

[Walddk]

FrancesHinden, on May 31 2006, 01:18 PM, said:

I shall discuss tonight with the other half of the selection committee.

Hey, what has Jeffrey to do with your decision? Let him become a member of the forums and express his view if he wishes. As Sabine Auken, while playing on BBO last night, so rightly pointed out in public:

"When did you last meet a woman who knows what she wants"?

Roland

[FrancesHinden]

Walddk, on May 31 2006, 03:20 PM, said:

"When did you last meet a woman who knows what she wants"? 

That's why I need his help.
We picked the players jointly and I assigned them into teams. I'm a great believer in team morale, experience etc so I've tried to put people together who know each other.

World XI(1)
Marcus Trescothick
Virender Sehwag
Rahul Dravid
Brian Lara ©
Kevin Pietersen
Andrew Flintoff
Kumar Sangakkara (w)
Brett Lee
Matthew Hoggard
Steve Harmison
Muttiah Muralitheran

12th man: Gary Pratt (will wind up Ponting nicely)

World XI(2) aka Australia & friends
Mathew Hayden
Justin Langer
Ricky Ponting ©
Jacques Kallis
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Michael Hussey
Adam Gilchrist (w)
Shane Warne ©
Makhaya Ntini
Shoaib Akhtar
Glen McGrath

12th man: Yuvraj Singh

[Australis currently have 2 de facto captains, might as well formalise it]

[FrancesHinden]

Tendulkar has been off form for ages, even before his injury.

[GeeGee]

Walddk, on May 31 2006, 10:31 AM, said:

P.S. Jeffrey and I will be umpiring (Alan 3rd umpire), Fred is the match referee, Frances is World 1's physio, Paul belongs to World2, and Sean will bring drinks on to the field. The rest will be commentating on TV 

I will do my Henry Blofeld impression on Test Match Special.

"A crow has landed on the pavilion roof, could this be an omen?"

[Walddk]

GeeGee, on Jun 2 2006, 01:14 PM, said:

Walddk, on May 31 2006, 10:31 AM, said:

P.S. Jeffrey and I will be umpiring (Alan 3rd umpire), Fred is the match referee, Frances is World 1's physio, Paul belongs to World2, and Sean will bring drinks on to the field. The rest will be commentating on TV 

I will do my Henry Blofeld impression on Test Match Special.

"A crow has landed on the pavilion roof, could this be an omen?"

hehe Yes, what a character he was. By the way, who is your favourite TV commentator (top 5)? Here is my list:

1. Bob Willis.
2. Ian Botham.
3. David Gower.
4. Michael Holding.
5. David Lloyd.

Roland

[FrancesHinden]

Better at radio commentators

1. Michael Holding
2. Donna (can't remember her surname)
3. Anyone else from Jamaica. I love that accent.

[nickf]

FrancesHinden, on May 31 2006, 08:15 PM, said:

<snip>
(except that Australia won't come off the bottom until they are no longer boringly better than everyone else at any sport they play).

You beat me to the punch again Frances, however may I respectfully correct you.

I think the Swedes are better than us at Curling and damn it I dont care that the Americans play better gridiron football than us.

nickf
sydney

[GeeGee]

Walddk, on Jun 2 2006, 11:27 AM, said:

GeeGee, on Jun 2 2006, 01:14 PM, said:

Walddk, on May 31 2006, 10:31 AM, said:

P.S. Jeffrey and I will be umpiring (Alan 3rd umpire), Fred is the match referee, Frances is World 1's physio, Paul belongs to World2, and Sean will bring drinks on to the field. The rest will be commentating on TV 

I will do my Henry Blofeld impression on Test Match Special.

"A crow has landed on the pavilion roof, could this be an omen?"

hehe Yes, what a character he was.

Was? Still is, I hope, though I haven't been listening to radio 4 today. Some employers.

I've been working at a World X1(1) and (2), but haven't come up with a complete list yet, but:-

World X1(1), starts with:

Gordon Greenidge
Desmond Haynes

and includes

Clive Lloyd
Gary Sobers

and finishes with

Wes Hall
Michael Holding
Andy Roberts
Lance Gibbs

While World XI(2) starts with

Geoff Boycott
John Edrich
Ken Barrington

and includes

Alan Knott
Fred Trueman

This may suggest a nationality bias, but I do need to include Alan Border, Imran Khan, Rod Marsh and Dennis Lillee. To quote cricinfo.com:-

"Throughout his career, Lillee also had a superb partner behind the stumps in wicketkeeper Rod Marsh. The dismissal "caught Marsh, bowled Lillee" appears 95 times on Test cards, a record pairing which has yet to be seriously challenged."

So I'll put them on opposite sides.

Geoff

[Echognome]

nickf, on Jun 2 2006, 11:38 AM, said:

FrancesHinden, on May 31 2006, 08:15 PM, said:

<snip>
(except that Australia won't come off the bottom until they are no longer boringly better than everyone else at any sport they play).

You beat me to the punch again Frances, however may I respectfully correct you.

I think the Swedes are better than us at Curling and damn it I dont care that the Americans play better gridiron football than us.

nickf
sydney

Not to get too off topic, but how many olympic medals does Australia win vis-a-vis the U.S.? Ok you want team sports. The big four in the US are Football (gridiron, or American or however you want to call it), Baseball, Basketball, and Ice Hockey. Australia want to sniff at any of those? No? In return, I don't expect the U.S. to do well at Aussie rules football, cricket, rugby, or football (soccer). If those were the four major sports in the U.S. then I'd expect we'd have a debate.