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Poll: What do you do now ? (21 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you do now ?

  1. Bid 5Clubs (16 votes [76.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.19%

  2. Pass and remove partner's X to 5Clubs (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  3. Pass and pass partner's X (3 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  4. Other (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

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#1 User is offline   temp3600 

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Posted 2005-November-10, 17:52

You are dealer, white vs red at IMPs, with _ - KQxx - xx - KQJT9xx, and the bidding has gone :

1♣ - (P) - 1♦ - (1♠)
2♣ - (3♠) - 3NT - (4♠)
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Do you agree with your bids so far ?

Now, do you :
- bid 5♣ ?
- pass and remove your partner's X to 5♣ ?
- pass and pass your partner's X ?
- other ?

Comments are of course welcome.

Michael
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Posted 2005-November-10, 17:55

I agree 100 % with all my bids so far.

My answer to this depends solely on my opps. If they are sane, I'm going to bid 5C. I have no defense and no spades, and they are red/white so I don't think theyre joking around, they will have extreme shape. A double game swing is possible. 5C will be cheap (or a make) and pard will often X them when it's wrong if I pass.

Against less sane opps, these inferences are less valid. I would probably pass against weak opps and just assume they are going nuts and pard might be ready for them.
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#3 User is offline   mikeh 

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Posted 2005-November-10, 18:10

I agree with all bids so far (mine, anyway) and I pull to 5♣ now. For me, passing and pulling shows more slam interest than I have: void AKxx xx KQJ109xx would be a minimum for pass and pull, given that partner has (probably) wasted ♠ values.
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Posted 2005-November-10, 18:11

mikeh, on Nov 10 2005, 07:10 PM, said:

For me, passing and pulling shows more slam interest than I have: void AKxx xx KQJ109xx would be a minimum for pass and pull, given that partner has (probably) wasted ♠ values.

hmm that seems like a strong 2C rebid.
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Posted 2005-November-10, 18:34

i honestly don't understand pass/pull here... why do i pass, to see if partner x's them? i don't really want that, do i? i have little defense, so i'll bid 5♣ to say that
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Posted 2005-November-10, 19:46

We are not in a forcing pass situation.

Pard may have been serious with 3N, or he might be joshing around. Either way, 5♣ looks OK.

There's not much reason to wait until you pull pard's double here. Just bid 5♣.
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Posted 2005-November-10, 20:04

pclayton, on Nov 10 2005, 08:46 PM, said:

We are not in a forcing pass situation.

Pard may have been serious with 3N, or he might be joshing around. Either way, 5♣ looks OK.

We are in a forcing pass unless partner psyched. Isn't this the case in EVERY forcing pass?
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Posted 2005-November-10, 21:33

"Pard may have been serious with 3N, or he might be joshing around."

I love foolish bids, but isn't this a strange place to fool around?

FWIW, I agree with the bidding and I would bid 5C.

Peter
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Posted 2005-November-10, 23:05

Sometimes 4NT still makable but not 5C. This one seems not of that kind.
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Posted 2005-November-11, 02:04

5C.

Over 3NT I would have bid 4C,
since Partner cant expect this
hand, so I see no reason to
change my mind, I just rebid clubs
on a higher level.

Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2005-November-12, 08:21

Here is the full hand :
Scoring: IMP

Both 4♠ and 5♣ are cold.
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